'kin BBC and climate change.

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Why are so many trees being cut down . I drive around and see big trees cit down on a daily basis. No one seems to care

Chopping down urban trees is a huge scandal. Money driven, no doubt.

This won't be a popular thing to suggest, I know, but why do so many who farm over-trim their hedges? Letting trees grow to maturity within a mixed growth stage hedge removes the threat of losing farmable land to woodland or forestry.
Who cares if it's "untidy"?
 
There's absolutely loads of field boundaries where hedges and trees could be planted (without making fields smaller). Seems some grant money for that might make sense. Perhaps if you had enough hedgerows and trees on your farm that go towards a calculation which offsets your emissions allowing you to qualify for a scheme to sell low carbon produce.
 

lim x

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Nottinghamshire
Its not just about the fuel for the journey of aircraft that should be taken into consideration but also the carbon infrastructure of the airport is massive to actually get that aircraft into flight, and people travelling to board the plane. How many people would actually take the journey at all, if flying was not such a frivolity? How many people would travel by bus or train if the flight was not available, or hybrid car.

Plus all the unnecessary, whimsical freight coming into the country, shipped to warehouses and then supermarkets and courier distribution. The courier companies have expanded massively over the last few years to distribute mainly useless junk, which will more than likely end up at the local tip or dumped in our gateways:mad:
 

manhill

Member
Its not just about the fuel for the journey of aircraft that should be taken into consideration but also the carbon infrastructure of the airport is massive to actually get that aircraft into flight, and people travelling to board the plane. How many people would actually take the journey at all, if flying was not such a frivolity? How many people would travel by bus or train if the flight was not available, or hybrid car.

Plus all the unnecessary, whimsical freight coming into the country, shipped to warehouses and then supermarkets and courier distribution. The courier companies have expanded massively over the last few years to distribute mainly useless junk, which will more than likely end up at the local tip or dumped in our gateways:mad:

Couriers and post office carriers mean each parcel doesn't require an individual car journey to the depot. Whether it's junk to be collected is maybe not seen in that light by the addressee.
 

lim x

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Nottinghamshire
Couriers and post office carriers mean each parcel doesn't require an individual car journey to the depot. Whether it's junk to be collected is maybe not seen in that light by the addressee.

Yes, I agree that a courier is best to deliver numerous packages. But what I am trying to explain (probably not very well) all these packages have a carbon footprint as does a joint of beef...both are a lifestyle choice but again Beef is the item chosen by the BBC lefties, who seem to hate the countryside and farming, slandering us with statistics that go unchallenged.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Chopping down urban trees is a huge scandal. Money driven, no doubt.

This won't be a popular thing to suggest, I know, but why do so many who farm over-trim their hedges? Letting trees grow to maturity within a mixed growth stage hedge removes the threat of losing farmable land to woodland or forestry.
Who cares if it's "untidy"?
Whilst no doubt more trees could be allowed to mature in hedgerows, allowing a hedge to grow to maturity actually reduces biodiversity I understood. Having varying stages of maturity necessitates laying or felling a hedge, which can become very labour intensive.

However I have let some hedges up with a view to a sustainable source of firewood.
 

manhill

Member
The environmentalists would have us believe that re-wilding will be the answer to all our woes. Don't fancy wood bark, thistle and grass stew myself. I prefer the security that livestock and crops provide, at least until I develop a taste for cockroaches and crickets.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Whilst no doubt more trees could be allowed to mature in hedgerows, allowing a hedge to grow to maturity actually reduces biodiversity I understood. Having varying stages of maturity necessitates laying or felling a hedge, which can become very labour intensive.

However I have let some hedges up with a view to a sustainable source of firewood.
I was sure I had heard that there is more biodiversity in a hedge that is allowed to grow into line of trees, except when they start to get over mature and die, where as a hedge if looked after will last for ever. So in the medium term letting it mature is better. Not sure who is right?
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Found my self at the same table as a bloke who was vegan to "save the planet" Gave him a blast of the value of livestock farming.
On the back foot he started bragging about the holiday he had just booked - 3 hours in the car to the airport then 5 hours on a 737.
He didn`t get it :(
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
The way I see it the problem is that there are too many people on the planet; just by being here we use resources and damage the place. Veggies and vegans may get a warm, evangelising glow that they’re saving the planet, but the way I see it that’s like taking the moral high ground because you only kicked someone 99 times in the head, not 100 times.
 
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Dman2

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Location
Durham, UK
Does anyone know of any fact based evidence to say that cows etc are not to blame for greenhouse gasses
I would like to put this evidence onto social media
Get it shared around, so that we are putting our side across
 

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