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Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Why,
Benjamin Netanyahu, leadership was waining, needed to prove himself,
The fact that on the 7th oct security on the border had severely been reduced.
Why, ?
this was noted at the time by various commentators,
I accept extreme, but then religion in the Middle East is extreme,
Yep, I believe Netanyahu will have a lot of explaining to do at the end of this. His fixation is the annihilation and deportation of the Palestinian population from the Gaza Strip, with little care for civilian casualties or well-being, and little or no concern even for the Israeli hostages' life. :(
 

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire

Qman

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Near Derby
Why,
Benjamin Netanyahu, leadership was waining, needed to prove himself,
The fact that on the 7th oct security on the border had severely been reduced.
Why, ?
this was noted at the time by various commentators,
I accept extreme, but then religion in the Middle East is extreme,

This proves my point, as soon as they see a weakness they pile in raping and murdering. Why can't they be more civilised and live and let live?
 

Qman

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Near Derby
Because they want what was taken from them back.

Not 1 of the murdering scum had any land taken from them. Arabs and Jews lived in harmony till the neighbours started attacking.

Hammas knew what would happen if they attacked, it is their fault. Israel in the only democracy in the middle east, they should be left in peace.
 

Lowland1

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Not 1 of the murdering scum had any land taken from them. Arabs and Jews lived in harmony till the neighbours started attacking.

Hammas knew what would happen if they attacked, it is their fault. Israel in the only democracy in the middle east, they should be left in peace.
You need to read up on your history and put aside your Islamophobia. Arabs and Jews haven't lived in peace since 1947.
 
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BrianV

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Dartmoor
Dear me, another thread in which Jew-haters rather artistically pretend not to be... :(
I would have thought any normal person would despise what the Israeli leadership are doing in Gaza without becoming a "Jew Hater", as always it's the crackpots in charge that do the damage for the people of a country.
What shocks me most is that now anyone who criticises the genocide that's going on over there is immediately tarred as anti Semitic, that's a very useful weapon for Israel to use as MPs are now discovering.
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
I would have thought any normal person would despise what the Israeli leadership are doing in Gaza without becoming a "Jew Hater", as always it's the crackpots in charge that do the damage for the people of a country.
What shocks me most is that now anyone who criticises the genocide that's going on over there is immediately tarred as anti Semitic, that's a very useful weapon for Israel to use as MPs are now discovering.
Too right. Complain about the actions of the Israeli government and you are a ‘ Jew Hater ‘ best keep quiet and let them go about their murderous business. I mean to doubt their good intentions is as good as being a Hamas cheerleader.
 

red

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Too right. Complain about the actions of the Israeli government and you are a ‘ Jew Hater ‘ best keep quiet and let them go about their murderous business. I mean to doubt their good intentions is as good as being a Hamas cheerleader.
Netanyahu knew the consequences that would result from the payments, from Qatar to Hamas, that he sanctioned. It's in his best interest that any peace initiative should fail, he will likely end up in jail when his fraud trial resumes, as it will when he's kicked out of office.
Golda Meir suffered the consequences of the 6 day war and she was an infinitely better leader than Netanyahu.
 

arcobob

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Norfolk
Probably because it was their land in the first place which they were thrown off by the Israelis.
I know it is harking back rather a long way but the Palestinians , aka Philistines , were immigrants from the Greek islands who settled on the coatal strip of Judea which now approximates to Gaza. They were not called philistine for no good reason because they refused to integrate or comply with local customs. The Palestinians from whom they are descended now occupy far more land than that upon which they originally settled. Nothing changes after thousands of years.
This does not suggest a solution but just corrects a misguided notion.
 
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red

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I know it is harking back rather a long way but the Palestinians , aka Philistines , were immigrants from the Greek islands who settled on the coatal strip of Judea which now approximates to Gaza. They were not called philistine for no good reason because they refused to integrate or comply with local customs. The Palestinians from whom they are descended now occupy far more land than that upon which they originally settled. Nothing changes after thousands of years.
This does not suggest a solution but just corrects a misguided notion.
Yes but no!
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Not 1 of the murdering scum had any land taken from them. Arabs and Jews lived in harmony till the neighbours started attacking.

Hammas knew what would happen if they attacked, it is their fault. Israel in the only democracy in the middle east, they should be left in peace.
And that is why they should behave like the grown ups in the region and act with proportional restraint. There is little point in accusing Putin's army of genocide when we the West turn a blind eye to it in Gaza.
 

Muck Spreader

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Limousin
I know it is harking back rather a long way but the Palestinians , aka Philistines , were immigrants from the Greek islands who settled on the coatal strip of Judea which now approximates to Gaza. They were not called philistine for no good reason because they refused to integrate or comply with local customs. The Palestinians from whom they are descended now occupy far more land than that upon which they originally settled. Nothing changes after thousands of years.
This does not suggest a solution but just corrects a misguided notion.

The origin of Palestinians and their genetic relatedness with other Mediterranean populations​

A Arnaiz-Villena 1, N Elaiwa, C Silvera, A Rostom, J Moscoso, E Gómez-Casado, L Allende, P Varela, J Martínez-Laso
The genetic profile of Palestinians has, for the first time, been studied by using human leukocyte antigen (HLA) gene variability and haplotypes. The comparison with other Mediterranean populations by using neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses reveal that Palestinians are genetically very close to Jews and other Middle East populations, including Turks (Anatolians), Lebanese, Egyptians, Armenians, and Iranians. Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences. The relatively close relatedness of both Jews and Palestinians to western Mediterranean populations reflects the continuous circum-Mediterranean cultural and gene flow that have occurred in prehistoric and historic times. This flow overtly contradicts the demic diffusion model of western Mediterranean populations substitution by agriculturalists coming from the Middle East in the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition.
 

arcobob

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Norfolk

The origin of Palestinians and their genetic relatedness with other Mediterranean populations​

A Arnaiz-Villena 1, N Elaiwa, C Silvera, A Rostom, J Moscoso, E Gómez-Casado, L Allende, P Varela, J Martínez-Laso
The genetic profile of Palestinians has, for the first time, been studied by using human leukocyte antigen (HLA) gene variability and haplotypes. The comparison with other Mediterranean populations by using neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses reveal that Palestinians are genetically very close to Jews and other Middle East populations, including Turks (Anatolians), Lebanese, Egyptians, Armenians, and Iranians. Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences. The relatively close relatedness of both Jews and Palestinians to western Mediterranean populations reflects the continuous circum-Mediterranean cultural and gene flow that have occurred in prehistoric and historic times. This flow overtly contradicts the demic diffusion model of western Mediterranean populations substitution by agriculturalists coming from the Middle East in the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition.
Religious rivalry is a comparatively recent dating back only to the 7th century. In prehistoric times this was the centre of early civilisation, the population and gene pool was very small and differences between Jews and Philistines(Canaanites) were almost entirely cultural. That said, the Philistines/Canaanites, later to become Palestinians, who settled in Judea(part of Israel). What you have reported is not at odds with what I said originally , neither does it support your remark that Jews were resettled on Palestinian land after the war.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Religious rivalry is a comparatively recent dating back only to the 7th century. In prehistoric times this was the centre of early civilisation, the population and gene pool was very small and differences between Jews and Philistines(Canaanites) were almost entirely cultural. That said, the Philistines/Canaanites, later to become Palestinians, who settled in Judea(part of Israel). What you have reported is not at odds with what I said originally , neither does it support your remark that Jews were resettled on Palestinian land after the war.
What war are you on about. The Roman invasion of Palestine in 63BC is the only thing I loosely could have referred to with it being the catalyst for the final removal of the Jews from Palestine. :scratchhead:
 

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