Lamma 2020

[mac]

Were they empty or setting up for the motor show?

any mention of the dates for next year yet?

12&13th next year I think Andrew.

 

[Dave W]

Had a enjoyable and insightful day. However some worrying finds on a big manufactures trailers. Using silicon to fake a weld on the axle mountains. Very worrying and won't look at their machines in the same way again. Especially as this trailer was a 18ton job. Exactly why I go to shows like that to sort the wheat from the chaff.

That's nothing new to be honest. Most machines are stitch welded with a run of silicon in between. It's only to stop water ingress rather than anything fake

 

[Spud]

That's nothing new to be honest. Most machines are stitch welded with a run of silicon in between. It's only to stop water ingress rather than anything fake

Give over man, how on Earth is that acceptable? It'll fall off in a year or two, expose unpainted metal and rust for a start, never mind being weak!

 

[Dolomite]

That's nothing new to be honest. Most machines are stitch welded with a run of silicon in between. It's only to stop water ingress rather than anything fake

I got under and checked the actual weld. It wasn't up to standard. Poor penetration, very amateur, rough and lumpy. The plates the axles could be moved backwards and forwards on and bolts to lock it up would easily rip off! I wouldn't have took it potato harvesting and want to try pulling it out if it sunk in. One very poor weld on one side of flat plate onto one side on the box section chassis wouldn't fill me with confidence.

 

[Phil P]

Thats very unreasonable. As a now ex haulier, we often didn't get the next days loads until 3-4pm the previous day. Occasionally, we'd get a customer with numerous loads in the same week, but that wasn't particularly commonplace. The mills are very hand to mouth.

Hope the haulier makes you wait when you want stuff moving in a clatter. We would go out of our way to help those that were helpful to us, the awkward buggers always got put down the list. Simple

This isn’t the thread to get into this (I’ve have run a thread on this in the past) but, how is it unreasonable to know what I’m doing tomorrow? I can’t just drop everything last minute because a hauliers give me less than 24h notice #1 I generally know what jobs I’ve got booked in and to change them could mean letting sometimes 3-4 plus people down #2 I’m never in a rush to move stuff.
ps, I will usually do my best to accommodate and I’ve arranged for them to come at 6am tomorrow to fit in with there schedule. Hope that’s ok with you?

 

[Spud]

This isn’t the thread to get into this (I’ve have run a thread on this in the past) but, how is it unreasonable to know what I’m doing tomorrow? I can’t just drop everything last minute because a hauliers give me less than 24h notice #1 I generally know what jobs I’ve got booked in and to change them could mean letting sometimes 3-4 plus people down #2 I’m never in a rush to move stuff.
ps, I will usually do my best to accommodate and I’ve arranged for them to come at 6am tomorrow to fit in with there schedule. Hope that’s ok with you?

No need to get smart about it fella. You said if they didn't give 48h notice it was their problem. I was putting the other side across. That's all. You please yourself, no problem to me at all.

 

[Dave W]

Have to say I think the SIP gear was most impressive. Once regarded as a lesser brand it's certainly a match for the best now

 

[Phil P]

No need to get smart about it fella. You said if they didn't give 48h notice it was their problem. I was putting the other side across. That's all. You please yourself, no problem to me at all.

I’m not getting smart about it, I just stated I need 48h notice to guarantee someone will be there to load and you say that’s unreasonable. Personally I do t think it is unreasonable to have a work schedule that can’t be altered at the drop of a hat, there had to be give and take on both sides though. So let’s just leave it at that. ?

 

[Phil P]

Had a enjoyable and insightful day. However some worrying finds on a big manufactures trailers. Using silicon to fake a weld on the axle mountains. Very worrying and won't look at their machines in the same way again. Especially as this trailer was a 18ton job. Exactly why I go to shows like that to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Care to name and shame? I missed that and I’m looking at trailers at the moment, can pm me if you like.

 

[Forever Fendt]

Care to name and shame? I missed that and I’m looking at trailers at the moment, can pm me if you like.

The Broughan trailers don't look bad at all the chassis being a box fabricated from 2 PFC fully welded will give ultimate strength some of the welding could have been a touch better but everything almost fully welded,For what its worth the best finished machine I saw For quality of welding ,strength and paint by a mile was the Agrihire rear discharge spreaders top job

 

[Dolomite]

The Broughan trailers don't look bad at all the chassis being a box fabricated from 2 PFC fully welded will give ultimate strength some of the welding could have been a touch better but everything almost fully welded,For what its worth the best finished machine I saw For quality of welding ,strength and paint by a mile was the Agrihire rear discharge spreaders top job

Broughan aren't a patch on what they were a few years ago. I remember them been made of much more as standard if you get what I mean, better quality overall and thinking they put more effort in than anyone else. The bale trailers are still on Parr but the silage/ grain trailers have dipped in my opinion. Personally the Richard western trailers especially the dump trailer I'd have for corn also was the best made, finished and thought out trailer there. Ram in the right place, great features, paint, tyres and metal throughout. Galv mud guards and brilliant little things that set it apart from the others.

 

[Robt]

It was sold out but they only sold the last stand in December so not rammed full. And they still didn’t use the big hall in the middle of the ‘C’ shape that was originally going to be included in LAMMA IIRC.

Isn’t the big hall in the middle of the c the entrance? AS the halls and roads curve in a c

 

[Bobthebuilder]

That’s me back in house, 20hr day, tricky run back north of Newcastle on A1 with a fair bit of debris on carriageway with the high winds, cup of tea then zzzzzzz

 

[Farma Parma]

Deutz?

Deutz stand was brill
I recon whatever Model No. there biggest warrior model is was there, but mind its some height up into that Cab off the Ground
I dont get it with Massey, Fendt & Valtra had a big stand & could have easily knocked some of each brands off & added in some masseys
There all owned by the same Group. its bonkers.
As for the others JD think there big enough not to be noticed if there not there & the rest must all think the same
Yet the likes of AGRO Landini & McCormick had a very impressive stand.
So did Jcb & Kuhn & many others
No KV nor Horsch no Amazon no Lemken
Place was full unlike gaps last year.
Food much better

I tell you what it does, it makes us the Farmers look at the other lesser known kit & we take notice of it i kid you not.

 

[Farma Parma]

 

[Farma Parma]

 

[Farma Parma]

 

[Phil P]

The Broughan trailers don't look bad at all the chassis being a box fabricated from 2 PFC fully welded will give ultimate strength some of the welding could have been a touch better but everything almost fully welded,For what its worth the best finished machine I saw For quality of welding ,strength and paint by a mile was the Agrihire rear discharge spreaders top job

I did have a look round the Broughan trailers, and they don’t look a bad trailer. However, they just didn’t seem to have the finish that would inspire me that they would last as long as my old trailers have. Not sure what it was but the steel body just looked a bit tinny from a distance, could just be me though?.
I now have a short list but I’ll be honest, for me there was probably one trailer company that stands out. It wasn’t just the build quality and price but the lads on the stand couldn’t have been more helpful and just inspired confidence in them as a family business. There’s still a way to go before anything gets ordered and there’s a couple who’ll only quote through a dealer (I’m already waiting on them) but yesterday definitely help shorten the list a little. Was well worth the day out ?

 

[Moorlands]

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Kettles boiling then it’s time to hit the road!

 

[Dave6170]

Are u here @Dave6170 ?

No. Nothing there i can afford