Lexion reliabilty

[Clive]

We are all very quick to post about problems with machines we run etc myself included.

So to add a bit of balance I thought I would post how impressed I am with the 2013 lexion 770t we are running this season.

So far it's completed OSR, Barley and wheat with the only down time being 5mins to change a knife section caught on a stone.

Thanks Claas, we have had our share of problems (2012 750t was not a high point !) but this machine is a belter !

 

[davedb]

We are all very quick to post about problems with machines we run etc myself included.

So to add a bit of balance I thought I would post how impressed I am with the 2013 lexion 770t we are running this season.

So far it's completed OSR, Barley and wheat with the only down time being 5mins to change a knife section caught on a stone.

Thanks Claas, we have had our share of problems (2012 750t was not a high point !) but this machine is a belter !

Unless you've finished harvest that was a bold statement it will defiantly break now

 

[snarling bee]

Total running/repair costs over say 10 years (not just first owner) would be a bit more relevant than how often a 3 year old machine fails. Also what percentage of machines out there are 'Friday afternoon' ones for each make. I suspect some combine factories only work on Monday mornings and Friday afternoons (not Claas I might add).

 

[Chae1]

Brilliant! 2 years old. Works 2 months of the year and hasn't broken down.

 

[Clive]

Unless you've finished harvest that was a bold statement it will defiantly break now

this is true ! it's got a fairly relaxed run now though until the finish sometime in October on millet I suspect !

 

[Clive]

Total running/repair costs over say 10 years (not just first owner) would be a bit more relevant than how often a 3 year old machine fails. Also what percentage of machines out there are 'Friday afternoon' ones for each make. I suspect some combine factories only work on Monday mornings and Friday afternoons (not Claas I might add).

cost is fixed, have been contract hiring combines for the last 10 years, the info you mention would be really useful though, wonder if we as TFF could somehow compile a machine cost and reliability index ? it would help a lot with purchase decisions

 

[Clive]

Brilliant! 2 years old. Works 2 months of the year and hasn't broken down.

there are many that don't !

 

[Timbo1080]

I just LOVE that Claas always seems to get a bashing (mostly it seems from NH drivers), but Claas drivers seldom slag off the others. Same always makes me chuckle with NH tractor drivers (especially), against Fendt. (Very much locally to me anyway, and also to a degree on this forum)
The relative silence from the Claas and Fendt drivers speaks volumes about which brands have problems, to me! Like you say, lots of noise when things go wrong, very quiet when things are right.
There are always Friday afternoon jobs, for every brand.......let me tell you about my neighbour's NH combine, it was a right disaster..........oh wait, I'm a Claas owner....Shhhhhhhh!

 

[nick...]

Total running/repair costs over say 10 years (not just first owner) would be a bit more relevant than how often a 3 year old machine fails. Also what percentage of machines out there are 'Friday afternoon' ones for each make. I suspect some combine factories only work on Monday mornings and Friday afternoons (not Claas I might add).

That would be massey ferguson then
Nick...

 

[brynseiri]

The "Friday afternoon" phrase I'd have thought would not apply today, all these firms claiming to have such stringent quality control etc.

 

[snarling bee]

Talking to friends and neighbours you still get them though. How you are treated by dealer and manufacturer is just as important.

 

[snarling bee]

I just LOVE that Claas always seems to get a bashing (mostly it seems from NH drivers), but Claas drivers seldom slag off the others. Same always makes me chuckle with NH tractor drivers (especially), against Fendt. (Very much locally to me anyway, and also to a degree on this forum)
The relative silence from the Claas and Fendt drivers speaks volumes about which brands have problems, to me! Like you say, lots of noise when things go wrong, very quiet when things are right.
There are always Friday afternoon jobs, for every brand.......let me tell you about my neighbour's NH combine, it was a right disaster..........oh wait, I'm a Claas owner....Shhhhhhhh!

We all know that Claas/Fendt owners and drivers are far superior to others.

 

[warksfarmer]

We are all very quick to post about problems with machines we run etc myself included.

So to add a bit of balance I thought I would post how impressed I am with the 2013 lexion 770t we are running this season.

So far it's completed OSR, Barley and wheat with the only down time being 5mins to change a knife section caught on a stone.

Thanks Claas, we have had our share of problems (2012 750t was not a high point !) but this machine is a belter !

Agree with this. The 770 here is a great combine and other than the intermittent adblue issue (now sorted) is faultless. Hire deal is finishing so we need to look around at options.

Really like the look of the JD S series but can't see it heating the axial flow value for money.

 

[Nick.]

Our 17yr old New Holland was way more reliable than the lexicon we've changed to with 1200hrs on.
We're not far off a new set of belts all round in 140 or so hrs.
Twice we've had belts slipping badly, after taking the belts off all the pulleys turn freely by hand. They were correctly tensioned, bit of a mystery. I'd prefer to have found a cause.
Great machine when it's going, but it's been parked up nearly as much as it's been working this season.

 

[Darren]

We are all very quick to post about problems with machines we run etc myself included.

So to add a bit of balance I thought I would post how impressed I am with the 2013 lexion 770t we are running this season.

So far it's completed OSR, Barley and wheat with the only down time being 5mins to change a knife section caught on a stone.

Thanks Claas, we have had our share of problems (2012 750t was not a high point !) but this machine is a belter !

Still not a patch on my two straw walker, Carlos fandango hybrid imaginary combines, bought off ebay for £25.50 ( buyer collects) cut 10,000000000000000 hect per year, no fixed costs as they don't need fixing. Dealer back up, well they often get my back up. But as they're based in the Ukraine one has to put up with them.

 

[Jim75]

Is your contract up for renewal ;-)

 

[John 1594]

Brilliant! 2 years old. Works 2 months of the year and hasn't broken down.

Question i ask is this....will it still be around in 30 years time and capable of functioning as it does now, or will it have been sent to china and made into washing machines...

Yes i know they are covering a lot of acres...thats not the point though, wear and longevity are two different things

 

[ARW]

Question i ask is this....will it still be around in 30 years time and capable of functioning as it does now, or will it have been sent to china and made into washing machines...

Yes i know they are covering a lot of acres...thats not the point though, wear and longevity are two different things

I think they will if serviced and maintained properly they will last. Any machine will. but the man needing that output can't risk the breakdown downtime an the man with a small acerage won't have one as he would need bigger trailers, probably a bigger shed for it etc and doesn't need the output

 

[Clive]

Question i ask is this....will it still be around in 30 years time and capable of functioning as it does now, or will it have been sent to china and made into washing machines...

Yes i know they are covering a lot of acres...thats not the point though, wear and longevity are two different things

cant see why not - my dad tells me when overhead cams first appeared in cars the old boys said no one would ever be able to fix such complex witchcraft !

I think things are getting easier to fix, a laptop will diagnose most problems and you don't even have to be on site. swapping an ECU is a moment work and they will get cheaper and cheaper as time goes on and the tech becomes the norm

as always has happened the guys that maintain these machines will just move with the technology
the first lexions must be getting on for 25years old now ? hardly new really are they ?

 

[Clive]

Still not a patch on my two straw walker, Carlos fandango hybrid imaginary combines, bought off ebay for £25.50 ( buyer collects) cut 10,000000000000000 hect per year, no fixed costs as they don't need fixing. Dealer back up, well they often get my back up. But as they're based in the Ukraine one has to put up with them.

does the Ukraine need x4 the harvest capacity of a Scottish harvest ?