LIC Genetics on British Friesians

[Martyn]

Our herd is mainly made up of British friesian genetics with a small amount of Irish breeding from our original herd we imported from Cork have used mainly Genus and more recently Friesian from holland, im finding some of the heifers especially with Chad breeding are loosing thier more compactness and becoming very leggy animals. We have most of the main uk bloodlines and always looking at outcrosses. Have ordered 50 straws from LIC, am i mad?

 

[Dead Rabbits]

If you are planning on getting some yield out of them, watch your udders. My experience is that they can have some poorly attached ones, more than some here. We have used a lot of hothouse, supposed to improve them.

 

[Borney92]

Are you happy with your Irish breeding? If so why not use it over the Lic breeding just look for higher maintenance figure and you should have your more compact animal.

 

[Manney]

We have mostly British Fr cows and like you I wanted to out cross so this year I've bought some Irish fr semen.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Our herd is mainly made up of British friesian genetics with a small amount of Irish breeding from our original herd we imported from Cork have used mainly Genus and more recently Friesian from holland, im finding some of the heifers especially with Chad breeding are loosing thier more compactness and becoming very leggy animals. We have most of the main uk bloodlines and always looking at outcrosses. Have ordered 50 straws from LIC, am i mad?

Have you looked at the Irish grazing bulls from cogent? Some of them have a fair amount of friesian blood in them. Our chad are already looking leggy not very friesian type at all compared to the premiers.

 

[som farmer]

we have used dutch friesian for the last 2 years, a lot of the friesians available here, are more like a compromise bred down from holstiens, just put my tin hat on, the irish bulls look better. But, it all boils down to what you want, another couple of years genetics, you will have some more 'proper' fr to choose from, but you will also have a lot of genomic holstiens, that will answer the same standard, a lot of irish use grazing type holstiens ! Bought a small group of hfr calves, 1 has always looked like a proper fr, broad in the chest, wide mussel, strong right through, bloody thing hasn't got I/c !!!

 

[Martyn]

Have you looked at the Irish grazing bulls from cogent? Some of them have a fair amount of friesian blood in them. Our chad are already looking leggy not very friesian type at all compared to the premiers.

Will have look at it online later on, any idea who our rep would be? Following the blood lines genus seam to have all the Fri are based of three main lines, our premier looking like classy beasts, will photograph them along side our chads later.

 

[organicguy]

LIC bulls now have a lot of Holstein in them.
There are plenty of BF that are a more traditional type, I would suggest that anything that is negative for stature, or positive for condition score will put strength back in.
Some of the dutch are very holstein type, Piet Adema for example.
Not got my head around irish proof system.
Just remenber that the figures for proven bulls do not lie, you will get what it says.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Will have look at it online later on, any idea who our rep would be? Following the blood lines genus seam to have all the Fri are based of three main lines, our premier looking like classy beasts, will photograph them along side our chads later.

I can pm the number if you like.

 

[vantage]

@Friesianfan is your first point of call.

 

[Rhydwen1]

Having used lic bulls on British friesians I would say they are good cows, but definitely more leggy and holstein than the bf, slightly better production but poorer health traits and fertility in particular. Plus bull calves on average seem to sell on average £50-£80 less when fat. Just depends on your system I suppose