Lime spreading rates.

[bobk]

I think that is the point it's got to all work together, small doses of lime stimulates the soil biology that then balances ph.

Tbf , little and often would be better , but is that logistically possible ?

 

[Henarar]

Tbf , little and often would be better , but is that logistically possible ?

I would think that just using lime dust in cubicles and it going out with the dung would supply the rate Treg is talking about

 

[bobk]

I would think that just using lime dust in cubicles and it going out with the dung would supply the rate Treg is talking about

I thought that was different stuff ? burnt lime .

 

[Henarar]

I thought that was different stuff ? burnt lime .

Hydrated lime, do the same thing though
having said that I can't see why you couldn't put filler dust in cubicles be much cheaper

 

[Hilly]

The modern soil scientists are probably flogging prilled lime ....

All the old fashioned ones certainly sold lime

 

[Treg]

I thought that was different stuff ? burnt lime .

I'm using mixed lime in the calving shed.
Yes @Henarar that's what I meant.

Tbf , little and often would be better , but is that logistically possible ?

Easier for livestock farmers as it can be mixed with dung/ slurry/ dirty water.

 

[Treg]

Page from Nicole Masters - For the love of soil.

 

[Treg]

 

[bobk]

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Hippies . or is it hippy's .

 

[Highland Mule]

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Page from Nicole Masters - For the love of soil.

Is she a soil scientist then? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of her.

 

[Henarar]

Hippies .

you need them to hold your leggies on

 

[Treg]

The difference between a spring soil test & a autumn ph test can be around 0.5 on healthy soils , written about in 1950s by Newman Turner , why the difference? The soil biology is working at full pace by then .
So if the soil biology can raise ph by 0.5 in 6 months surely you want to be encouraging the little critters to do the work in stead of buying expensive inputs.
Simple way to test this theory...test your soils spring & autumn with no lime added & see what happens.

 

[Treg]

Is she a soil scientist then? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of her.

Not sure what letters she has behind her name?

 

[Highland Mule]

Not sure what letters she has behind her name?

I studied chemistry for about eight years and I don’t have any letters after my name. Can’t say I take a huge amount of notice of them with the various PhDs I work with either.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

@Bossfarmer
Mix in with dung - so you can apply lower rates & meant to be a good balancer when applying. Dung- cow manure.

I must be getting old as I was taught never to put dung and lime on together,

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I’ll ask again - any chance of a link to your claims that “modern soil experts” recommend such low amounts?

I really can’t see it doing any difference, but happy to read any advice available.

All I know is if the PH is 5.5 putting ton on won't do it on my land ,
And some lime is worth jack sh!t
I know Limex is a dirty word but at least it ain't a,wheelbarrow full of gritt that will still be there in a thousand years

 

[le bon paysan]

Purely as an amateur at cereal growing I put on 1 for 1. Quick lime at 92% so 150 kgs of lime = 300 kgs of urea,
3 X 46. All spread in the spring, seems to work for me.

 

[PSQ]

A man stands in a thin, palid and weedy field with a pH of 5.3 and hungry looking stock, and stammers to himself:
“But the ‘expert’ in a book says it’s fine...”

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Same as the farmer looking at thin, spindly and patchy OSR in November.

He has in the past put on (say) 2t/ac on the standing crop and got something good to look at by March.

Or he could trample through his crop with a spreader putting 15kg on and look at the wheelmarks until he cuts his half a crop.

 

[T7.wab]

What ph is the starting point to be only applying such little amount?