- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
It's a bit like religion, where the person in the fancy robes thumps the pulpit and tells us we're all sinners, but we'll never see the original texts from Mathew Mark Luke and John, Joel's plough shares or Corinthian letters etc etc, that have been translated in just such a way as to keep all the peasants in line and doing what they're told.Nobody has yet answered whether this is a legal requirement or not either
Any problems with tank mixing ?Opinions on the NUE of foliar applications vary between 3:1 & 9:1, so I go with around 3:1 NUE (I use Folex N, as i'm a pessimist/cynic/sceptic). Have buggered about a bit with this, but usually end up at around 20l/ha of Folex with every pass of the sprayer. Generally 8 passes, and a total volume of 160lts/ha. Folex is iirc 20% urea. So that equates to 0.2(8x20)= 32kg N. That 32kg/N at 3:1 would make 96Kg N soil applied equivalent.
Massive caveat - This is from memory & i'm currently trying to put the kids to bed.....Still!!
you know I read this thread and various others recently and just think .......... why am I bothering farming anymore ?
I'm sure I'm not the only one ?
Maybe we should all take the not so subtle hints, UK farmers are not allowed to compete on even terms to import competitors, the public and government clearly want us to grow flowers ......... so maybe we should juts do that
Itās āindustry self regulationā under a RT ruleis this actual law now or guideline / RT / cross compliance ?
Itās āindustry self regulationā under a RT rule
Will Probably be as effective as the Metaldehyde stewardship and VI in the long run
Been thinking the same for a while now.you know I read this thread and various others recently and just think .......... why am I bothering farming anymore ?
I'm sure I'm not the only one ?
Maybe we should all take the not so subtle hints, UK farmers are not allowed to compete on even terms to import competitors, the public and government clearly want us to grow flowers ......... so maybe we should juts do that
What a joke. This kind of thing would pish me off and put me off farming, it is a good job I am no longer involved in it. Carry on putting liquid urea out after April 1st I would. This is clearly a ploy by fertiliser manufacturers who are trying to put urea on the backfoot despite the fact urea is used nearly exclusively worldwide.
Urea is agronomically superior, probably kinder to soil life and is cheaper to transport and has far less issues regarding explosion risks.
I think you will find out that if rt didnāt do it then the ea would and charge every farmer that uses urea far greater amount than rt costs ( I hate red tractor as much as anyone and what to see it gone) but I think the NFU have done as good a job with the hand the government gave them."Self regulation" is quite a wide term which makes this difficult.
According to Wikipedia: "Industry self-regulation is the process whereby members of an industry, trade or sector of the economy monitor their own adherence to legal, ethical, or safety standards, rather than have an outside, independent agency such as a third party entity or governmental regulator monitor and enforce those standards"
Personally to me it feels very much like we have an outside, third party entity. I'm not sure for a second that I would suggest they are independent though.
We have the worst of both worlds - members of our industry (NFU) who think they know better have sold out to a third party to monitor the industry, with a guise they still have control.
It reminds me of the government suggesting they have control over the number of migrants entering the country...and yet having a vested interest in not using their powers to do anything about it. The big difference is every 5 years there is a chance to express that disappointment at the ballot box.
If we all stuck together and had a year growing nothing would it make a difference, it will never happen thoughyou know I read this thread and various others recently and just think .......... why am I bothering farming anymore ?
I'm sure I'm not the only one ?
Maybe we should all take the not so subtle hints, UK farmers are not allowed to compete on even terms to import competitors, the public and government clearly want us to grow flowers ......... so maybe we should juts do that
Iāll scrutinise the NFU as much as anyone but letās not forget that AICC and NIAB were involved in this consultation as wellI think you will find out that if rt didnāt do it then the ea would and charge every farmer that uses urea far greater amount than rt costs ( I hate red tractor as much as anyone and what to see it gone) but I think the NFU have done as good a job with the hand the government gave them.
I think you will find out that if rt didnāt do it then the ea would and charge every farmer that uses urea far greater amount than rt costs ( I hate red tractor as much as anyone and what to see it gone) but I think the NFU have done as good a job with the hand the government gave them.
Iāll scrutinise the NFU as much as anyone but letās not forget that AICC and NIAB were involved in this consultation as well
I think against a Gov proposed outright ban theyāve probably done what what they can with a Sh*tty hand
Iām reasonable ok with it apart fromā¦
1/ There needs to be a bad weather exemption for adverse weather like this spring when applications are delayed and early April still allows sound application
2/ RT has nothing to do with it
3/ Liquid is exempt
4/ CF are scrutinised for market control and anything else that can be stuck to them
Another reason to ditch rtRed tractor will be the enforcement mechanism.
AIC and the like- all playing the same tune and it is probably not the one farmers want to hear.
CF- can't be touched as they are surely corporate NFU members. It is they are who are probably driving the thing. AN makes little sense as a fertiliser which explains why the majority of the world does not use AN.
They have if the government gives it to them!Rubbish. EA have no such powers.
Essentially the same. 20% w/v Ureic N. I haven't had any complications with any nutrient or fungicide mixes. Never needed to use it with PGRs or Herbicides though. I was warned about certain formulations of Boron and Silicone, but didn't have any problems there either.Any problems with tank mixing ?
My agronomist is quite risk averse on this so it's nice to hear you can chuck it in with anything else, or are there mixes to avoid?
Is folex the same as Nufol?