AN won't go well in bulk. It's so hygroscopic it will go solid very quickly & I doubt the Home Office would allow it anyway. Urea is much easier in bulk. The use of bags seems to be a bit of a UK/European thing.
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AN won't go well in bulk. It's so hygroscopic it will go solid very quickly & I doubt the Home Office would allow it anyway. Urea is much easier in bulk. The use of bags seems to be a bit of a UK/European thing.
A common fallacy peddled by sellers of ammonium nitrate.
I'll ask a couple of suppliers if bulk urea is feasible. Maybe some facility's / ports would struggle which may effect the price.
Ought to be at least £10 / t cheaper. Single use plastic under pressure as well.
Those that home brew liquid N must have it in bulk?
Chae1
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Was there not trials that showed liquid fert reduced yields. Think it was yen?
I did trials in 2018. Only on grass and spring crops. Didn't see any benefit, with regard to yields. Can see the logistical benefits.
I did trials in 2018. Only on grass and spring crops. Didn't see any benefit, with regard to yields. Can see the logistical benefits.
Bulk urea is brilliant, you need a shed high enough to tip an arctic trailer at the end of a spreading day just drop any remainder back on the heap.
What was their theory on why that happened? Green leaf area loss through scorch?
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
I can't find it!
Think it was just basically a survey of different farmers and growing practices and those using liquid fert had lower yields. I'm sure I read it on here! So must be true.
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- Bedfordshire
One reason that I went away from liquid, other than price, is that we have over 50 field obstacles on the farm, its bad enough spraying around then, but to do liquid as well is less than ideal. We still use some liquid, and always spend a day doing the outer 2/3 metres of every headland. Weigh cell and auto shut off spinners have revolutionised the job as well.
wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
Do any companies sell just urea based liquid n as opposed to uan that most seem to sell?
I know I could mix my own but I haven’t got the equipment or time .
I know I could mix my own but I haven’t got the equipment or time .
Lexion1000
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That’s interesting. I use both solid and liquid and I hardly see any yield differences between them. If anything liquid yields slightly lower. Both have a place in our system but both have drawbacks too.
Crazy money new but would still be cheaper over ten years than AN
ollie989898
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A local chap bought one and couldn’t get cheap urea through it well. Kept clogging up the metering rollers. He’s using better quality stuff now. Seems strange.
ollie989898
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I can believe that. Bulk urea in a heap for months, the smallest lump is going to impede the flow and where there heck is the blockage on your 24m booms??
Liquid is the only way.
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- Lincs
Could you please elaborate a bit on fiprophos. My neighbour puts on all my nitrogen in liquid form. I have been doing the p & k myself in solid form. Spreader needs an upgrade. So decisions need to be made. Thanks.
It was bagged, not bulk. There are more ways of handling fertiliser than you appreciate and these guys are on 36m machines, not 24. If Kuhn made use of the heat in the hydraulic oil to dry the air in the fan, it would work better and wouldn't absorb so much moisture.