Long lasting softwood fence posts

[DrDunc]

Intermediate posts.
3-4" x 5'6" or 6' (75-100mm X 1.65 or 1.8m)
4-5" x 5'6" or 6'( 100-125mm X 1.65 or 1.8m)
Strainers
6-7" X 8' or 9' (150mm - 175mm x 2.4m or 2.7m
7-8" X 8' or 9' (175-200mm X 2.4m or 2.7m)
Struts
4-5" X 8' or 9' ( 100-125mm X 2.4m or 2.7m)

Good day.

I am a relationship officer in a Wealth Management Firm. We represent wealthy Investors who occupy various government positions. Due to the sensitivity of our client's positions, a few are seeking for an individual or company for investment opportunities in order to diversify their asset portfolios.

if you are interested so that we can talk more. my personal email: [email protected]
Regards.

 

[egbert]

My bussines is running well we can not produce enough to Denmark ,France,Netherlands and Germany
I living in the UK because it is the most amazing island i have ever seen with nany frendley people.
It is a demand market.More buyer than seller.I just wanted to help.

Some of those countries have much tighter enviro rules than we do.
I'm hearing German farmers can, if they go and do the buying themselves, travel outside the EU and buy CCA stakes,
but the general rule is much tighter. no nasty chemical treatments.
Naturally durable timber has become, and will increasingly become, valuable.

The creosote stakes here are still in a legal limbo it seems.
As commercial end users, we can still buy and use them, even though there are potential issues with the creosote just as much as the alleged problem with CCA.

Funny no-one has come back suggesting yew as a post. There's not much of it down here, - tends to be discriminated against in livestock areas- but it makes extremely durable posts.

(to be right on trend, I've gates in the yard hung off both yew and robinia)

 

[egbert]

Sorry about my English it is not my first leguegue.

your English is a lot better than my Hungarian......

 

[egbert]

Good day.

I am a relationship officer in a Wealth Management Firm. We represent wealthy Investors who occupy various government positions. Due to the sensitivity of our client's positions, a few are seeking for an individual or company for investment opportunities in order to diversify their asset portfolios.

if you are interested so that we can talk more. my personal email: [email protected]
Regards.

eh?
I smell rodents here......

 

[Saby]

I can offer Robinia Pseudoacacia ,Black locust as followes please.

8-10 cm 1,8 m 7,5 /piece
10- 12 cm 1,8 m 11/piece
15- 18 cm 2,4 m 33/piece
18- 20 cm 2,4 m 45/piece
10- 12 cm 2,4 m 16/piece

Debarked and pointed delivered to the UK.
I also can offer 2,7 m lenght If You need.
I can give some discount it is dephend on the quantity.

 

[Timbersupplier]

Some of those countries have much tighter enviro rules than we do.
I'm hearing German farmers can, if they go and do the buying themselves, travel outside the EU and buy CCA stakes,
but the general rule is much tighter. no nasty chemical treatments.
Naturally durable timber has become, and will increasingly become, valuable.

The creosote stakes here are still in a legal limbo it seems.
As commercial end users, we can still buy and use them, even though there are potential issues with the creosote just as much as the alleged problem with CCA.

Funny no-one has come back suggesting yew as a post. There's not much of it down here, - tends to be discriminated against in livestock areas- but it makes extremely durable posts.

(to be right on trend, I've gates in the yard hung off both yew and robinia)

CCA has been banned for about 15 years so should not be getting offered anywhere and is virtually banned worldwide.
Creosote is still widely available and is not in limbo as passed for use to at least Oct 2020 with an extension being looked at.

 

[egbert]

CCA has been banned for about 15 years so should not be getting offered anywhere and is virtually banned worldwide.
Creosote is still widely available and is not in limbo as passed for use to at least Oct 2020 with an extension being looked at.

I was hearing from a German master carpenter lately about farmers going out of the country - and maybe the EU- to get stakes.
It may be that they're only able to get what we've got here - the Germs really have tried to ban everything it seems.
He, or I, may have got that wrong - although he is a very highly qualified man, who lectures on wood treatment.
Certainly he isn't allowed to use any treatment in his domestic construction work.

Ditto, since the CCA ban, a pal of mine had a line of artic loads of imported stakes from the far end of the Baltic we think.
The story was that they were CCA, but who knows.....they'd look the same colour.

as for creo.....I thought not everyone could use it? Certainly, I was looking at some prices this very morning on a UK suppliers site, and there was an easy to follow instruction on proving your were a (?) contractor -as opposed to a DIYer.
And you have to pay attention when buying drums of it, lest you get the DIYer pretend version
It suggests creo isn't without restriction.

 

[William G]

Anyone have any experience with post saver sleeves. I was tempted to give them a try but they seem like a bit of a faff to work with. Problem is like all the so called answers to the problem it takes a few years to find out it doesn’t work. Are post savers worth the hassle

 

[Henarar]

Anyone have any experience with post saver sleeves. I was tempted to give them a try but they seem like a bit of a faff to work with. Problem is like all the so called answers to the problem it takes a few years to find out it doesn’t work. Are post savers worth the hassle

there was a thread on here about them and from what I remember they are not very good

 

[Kidds]

A Dutch guy told me they worked. He sold them but was offering me foreign grown softwood with HC4 treatment (think that’s right) with suggested option of post savers. I still said I don’t trust any of it and would choose creosote posts.
He sold both but said he had plenty of customers happy with the postsavers. I’d say he was genuine and had a great deal to lose if he was wrong. He was selling trellis posts for orchard work, if they fail there’s a lot more than stray sheep involved (without belittling escaping sheep).

I thought creosote posts in orchards were frowned upon but he said they were still widely used due to lost confidence in alternative treatments.

 

[tepapa]

Anyone have any experience with post saver sleeves. I was tempted to give them a try but they seem like a bit of a faff to work with. Problem is like all the so called answers to the problem it takes a few years to find out it doesn’t work. Are post savers worth the hassle

Yes they are a faff. They're not 100% effective on all posts but they definitely do help.
My opinion is by the time you've paid for the sleeve and applied it you may as well use creosote. Obviously some situations you can't use creosote so post savers help to increase life span of the post.

 

[William G]

Yes they are a faff. They're not 100% effective on all posts but they definitely do help.
My opinion is by the time you've paid for the sleeve and applied it you may as well use creosote. Obviously some situations you can't use creosote so post savers help to increase life span of the post.

Iv never used creosote posts as I was assuming creosote doesn’t contain all the banned ingredients and therefore isn’t the same creosote it used to be. Thus making it as useless as the green treatment. However I see creosote highly recommended on here. Has my assumption of it being over priced and just as useless been wrong. Are they definitely lasting longer

 

[ollie989898]

Can someone tell me please, what chemical is banned, I assume creosote is some kind of coal tar mixture which contains all sorts, most of them nasty. Which part is banned?

Does creocote work?

 

[tepapa]

Can someone tell me please, what chemical is banned, I assume creosote is some kind of coal tar mixture which contains all sorts, most of them nasty. Which part is banned?

Does creocote work?

Yes creosote works.
Don't know what part if any is banned. Just hear people say it has less stuff in than it used too. Suppose it depends what grade of creosote it is.

 

[hendrebc]

Arsenic is what was banned in tantalising stuff I think.

 

[tomlad]

be careful , I tink there creotrete ? and creosote , first one u could buy in home base and will b useless , at my builders yard u sort of have to prove to b a farmer to buy the proper one , if that makes sense . full fat creosote is a different product , thicker smells proper nasty . will stain flesh and no dought burn skin.

 

[William G]

be careful , I tink there creotrete ? and creosote , first one u could buy in home base and will b useless , at my builders yard u sort of have to prove to b a farmer to buy the proper one , if that makes sense . full fat creosote is a different product , thicker smells proper nasty . will stain flesh and no dought burn skin.

Yeah that’s what I’m led to believe. Only as I understand all creosote isn’t what it used to be. Cca is apparently what is banned. Copper chrome and arsenic. I got a barrel of creosote about 12 years ago from local builders suppliers. They gave me it for nothing as it was now illegal to sell it anywhere in eu. Was told at time they could give it away but not sell it and from now on all timber treatment will be sh**. They certainly got that bit right. But Iv always been wary of paying the extra for todays creosoted posts for this reason. But certainly interested if anyone can say they definitely last longer as this 5 - 10 years sh** is actually getting pretty depressing now

 

[tepapa]

They banned the arsenic out of CCA which did the work.

There is creosote which is still available to be used in industry but not domestic situations.
There are also copies with very similar names like creocote. These are oil or water based and although sold as "creosote" definitely aren't. To be fair it's new type of treatment so no one really knows how well it works or for how long. But it won't be as good as creosote.

If you buy proper creosoted posts these will last decades without a worry. If you have two competing suppliers and the price is 50/60p per post different I'd suspect one was selling the fake stuff. It also goes white after a year or so. Creosote fades but not to the same degree or as quick.

 

[egbert]

Yeah that’s what I’m led to believe. Only as I understand all creosote isn’t what it used to be. Cca is apparently what is banned. Copper chrome and arsenic. I got a barrel of creosote about 12 years ago from local builders suppliers. They gave me it for nothing as it was now illegal to sell it anywhere in eu. Was told at time they could give it away but not sell it and from now on all timber treatment will be sh**. They certainly got that bit right. But Iv always been wary of paying the extra for todays creosoted posts for this reason. But certainly interested if anyone can say they definitely last longer as this 5 - 10 years sh** is actually getting pretty depressing now

Check with your supplier, but pressure treated creosote (with the proper stuff -and I can't believe that anyone running a treatment plant would be using the DIYer fake stuff) should be fine.

The CCA tanalising treatment has gone to ratsh*t since the Chrome and Arsenic was - I believe- taken out.

In fact, we were talking about this today -it's a hardly perennial- was there any evidence that it was a problem?
I know they were taking piddle samples from various operatives prior, but am unaware of any epidemic in fencers or treatment plant operators.

 

[tepapa]

Check with your supplier, but pressure treated creosote (with the proper stuff -and I can't believe that anyone running a treatment plant would be using the DIYer fake stuff) should be fine.

The CCA tanalising treatment has gone to ratsh*t since the Chrome and Arsenic was - I believe- taken out.

In fact, we were talking about this today -it's a hardly perennial- was there any evidence that it was a problem?
I know they were taking piddle samples from various operatives prior, but am unaware of any epidemic in fencers or treatment plant operators.

Cca was banned on the theoretical poisoning of children at playgrounds built by CCA timber. It was since proven to be save with no risks. But thats ok because apparently we can't cope without the EU.