Losing satellites under trees

[Badshot]

What, if anything can be done?
Can the signal be bounced with a repeater?

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Not much to do other than trim the tree branches.

(unless Vlad's boys are offloading GPS jamming and spoofing gear on fleabay... )

 

[TripleSix]

Is X fill available on your kit?
Is it enabled?

Next step is chainsaw or god forbid you use the round thing in front of you on headlands

 

[Badshot]

Is X fill available on your kit?
Is it enabled?

Next step is chainsaw or god forbid you use the round thing in front of you on headlands

Xfill is satellite based, I'm not losing the rtk signal, it's the sats it can't see.
I am using the round thing in front of me, but drilling direct into stubbles with a gd doesn't leave much to follow.
Luckily the screen paints where I've been so can follow that .
Just seems to me that it wouldn't be difficult to have a mobile repeater that could be set up where it does get signal and literally repeat the signal.
I've found some external gps repeater slash amplifiers for car sat navs, wondering if it'd work set up on the bonnet or drill to give a second eye?

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Is X fill available on your kit?
Is it enabled?

X fill helps if he’s losing the correction (RTX or terrestrial) signal. This is usually the first sat signal to go, due to its position here in the UK.

If he’s losing the other birdies (position), then it’s pole-saw time, because you still need to see a minimum number of birds for the receiver to calculate its position

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Xfill is satellite based, I'm not losing the rtk signal, it's the sats it can't see.
I am using the round thing in front of me, but drilling direct into stubbles with a gd doesn't leave much to follow.
Luckily the screen paints where I've been so can follow that .
Just seems to me that it wouldn't be difficult to have a mobile repeater that could be set up where it does get signal and literally repeat the signal.
I've found some external gps repeater slash amplifiers for car sat navs, wondering if it'd work set up on the bonnet or drill to give a second eye?

Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that.

Your receiver needs direct line of sight to the sky. It calculates your precise position based on the radio distance in a straight line to each and every satellite it can see.

The receiver is basically “counting” the exact number of wavelengths it is from each satellite to work out the distance from it to the bird. Using what is effectively fancy mathematical geometry, it can then work out its position, knowing the distance from several satellites, and knowing the position of the satellite as it zooms overhead.

Bouncing or repeating these signals would only make it worse / impossible to calculate an accurate position.

 

[davidroberts30]

@sawdust, your needed with tigger

 

[Badshot]

Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that.

Your receiver needs direct line of sight to the sky. It calculates your precise position based on the radio distance in a straight line to each and every satellite it can see.

The receiver is basically “counting” the exact number of wavelengths it is from each satellite to work out the distance from it to the bird. Using what is effectively fancy mathematical geometry, it can then work out its position, knowing the distance from several satellites, and knowing the position of the satellite as it zooms overhead.

Bouncing or repeating these signals would only make it worse / impossible to calculate an accurate position.

Bugger

 

[sawdust]

@sawdust, your needed with tigger

After him being on it, he only had to ask... when it comes to friends, he’s very short sighted

 

[sawdust]

@sawdust, your needed with tigger

More to the point! what are we doing in this part of the forum...

 

[Jamie89]

Have you definitely got Glonass unlocked? How many sat’s do you see in full Blue sky?

 

[Stoxs]

Don't follow the coverage in the screen because that is only saying where it thinks it is from the satellite signal!
Been there done that for the drill miss!

 

[farmer steve]

What, if anything can be done?
Can the signal be bounced with a repeater?

It's bloody annoying when drilling and turning on a headland up a Woodside or undertrees or even if there's trees in the middle of a field. For drilling i use Omnistar and it's terrible for loosing signal in these situations, takes upto 30 minutes to get back to decent quality signal again. So end up drilling manually for a while. On RTK at least it only looses signal for several seconds then is straight back to good signal again. Wish we could find a solution. I'm sure certain makes are better than others at keeping signal.