Martin Grantley Smith “moved on” / “retired”

[Nick.]

Votes have been counted and verified, almost 11000 registrations at a cost of £120000.00

https://ahdb.org.uk/news/more-than-10-000-levy-payers-sign-up-for-ahdb-s-shape-the-future

I wonder how many of those votes were from members on here ?
Mine certainly was. No where else did I see anything about having a say.

 

[Hindsight]

Another question - does anyone know why AHDB cereals and oilseeds levy is compulsary and yet the PGRO pulses levy is voluntary?

The debate report in Hansard (October 1965) when HGCA was set up under the Cereal Marketing Act is a good read. Much of the debate is similar to today.

HOME-GROWN CEREALS AUTHORITY (LEVY) (Hansard, 27 October 1965)

HOME-GROWN CEREALS AUTHORITY (LEVY) (Hansard, 27 October 1965)

api.parliament.uk

 

[warksfarmer]

It would be interesting to know how much it cost to stage Will’s Q and A?
And how many people actually watched it..

The official FOIR response:

‘’The individual contractual cost relating to the Facebook Live question and answer session with Mr Will Jackson via the Farmers Weekly Facebook page is commercially competitive information for Farmers Weekly and we are obligated to confidentiality. We have therefore applied Section 41 of the Freedom of Information Act on confidentiality which allows for the recognition that the pricing information was provided with an obligation of confidentiality and disclosure would constitute a breach of confidence, which is likely to be successfully actionable through a court for that breach. Disclosure would be an unauthorised use of the information to the detriment of that organisation’’

 

[Jackov Altraids]

The official FOIR response:

‘’The individual contractual cost relating to the Facebook Live question and answer session with Mr Will Jackson via the Farmers Weekly Facebook page is commercially competitive information for Farmers Weekly and we are obligated to confidentiality. We have therefore applied Section 41 of the Freedom of Information Act on confidentiality which allows for the recognition that the pricing information was provided with an obligation of confidentiality and disclosure would constitute a breach of confidence, which is likely to be successfully actionable through a court for that breach. Disclosure would be an unauthorised use of the information to the detriment of that organisation’’

So we can ask FW what it would cost?

 

[DrDunc]

The official FOIR response:

‘’The individual contractual cost relating to the Facebook Live question and answer session with Mr Will Jackson via the Farmers Weekly Facebook page is commercially competitive information for Farmers Weekly and we are obligated to confidentiality. We have therefore applied Section 41 of the Freedom of Information Act on confidentiality which allows for the recognition that the pricing information was provided with an obligation of confidentiality and disclosure would constitute a breach of confidence, which is likely to be successfully actionable through a court for that breach. Disclosure would be an unauthorised use of the information to the detriment of that organisation’’

Aye very good

And with all the fancy feck you words, they've deflected attention away from answering the other embarrassing "how few actually viewed" question.....

..... Looks like @WillJAgri is finally earning his £80+k a year funding from levy payers

Edit
If this wasn't Wills work, my apologies, but look and learn my well paid communications directing non friend, this is how you really cover your erse with words

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

The official FOIR response:

‘’The individual contractual cost relating to the Facebook Live question and answer session with Mr Will Jackson via the Farmers Weekly Facebook page is commercially competitive information for Farmers Weekly and we are obligated to confidentiality. We have therefore applied Section 41 of the Freedom of Information Act on confidentiality which allows for the recognition that the pricing information was provided with an obligation of confidentiality and disclosure would constitute a breach of confidence, which is likely to be successfully actionable through a court for that breach. Disclosure would be an unauthorised use of the information to the detriment of that organisation’’

It seems they always seem to be spending money on stuff we don't need.

It's obviously a lot otherwise why hide it? So is it £1000, £10,000, £20,000?

Whatever it did cost I would say was a waste of money.

Finally, why agree to a payment which must be kept confidential? Surely the answer to that would be "We have to declare our expenditure so confidentiality is not an option".

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Aye very good

And with all the fancy feck you words, they've deflected attention away from answering the other embarrassing "how few actually viewed" question.....

..... Looks like @WillJAgri is finally earning his £80+k a year funding from levy payers

Edit
If this wasn't Wills work, my apologies, but look and learn my well paid communications directing non friend, this is how you really cover your erse with words

How?

 

[DrDunc]

How?

Did nobody ask them how few actually viewed the fun fact filled farmer friendly communication extravagance?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Did nobody ask them how few actually viewed the fun fact filled farmer friendly communication extravagance?

One can only assume not many otherwise they would have said.

 

[Grass And Grain]

I get it that organisations like AHDB can't spend all their time on places like this, but I think there is a way. Time limit it.

Maybe say they're going to come on for 3 days of discussions/questions. Keep the levy payers happy. Not endlessly ongoing and too time consuming for AHDB.

 

[Old apprentice]

You watch some of there meetings on you tube they just seamed to talk among them selves and farmers just seamed irrelevant.

 

[Andy Nash]

The official FOIR response:

‘’The individual contractual cost relating to the Facebook Live question and answer session with Mr Will Jackson via the Farmers Weekly Facebook page is commercially competitive information for Farmers Weekly and we are obligated to confidentiality. We have therefore applied Section 41 of the Freedom of Information Act on confidentiality which allows for the recognition that the pricing information was provided with an obligation of confidentiality and disclosure would constitute a breach of confidence, which is likely to be successfully actionable through a court for that breach. Disclosure would be an unauthorised use of the information to the detriment of that organisation’’

Nice try.
Of course they may have signed a confidentiality agreement with farmers weekly, or they may not.
In the same way you were told that imported grain had far more checks and was a more ‘trusted’ commodity than home grown grain and that proved not to be true.
The question is; Should a levy payer funded organisation be signing commercially sensitive agreements with their suppliers anyway? Surely, their spending should be open to scrutiny.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Nice try.
Of course they may have signed a confidentiality agreement with farmers weekly, or they may not.
In the same way you were told that imported grain had far more checks and was a more ‘trusted’ commodity than home grown grain and that proved not to be true.
The question is; Should a levy payer funded organisation be signing commercially sensitive agreements with their suppliers anyway? Surely, their spending should be open to scrutiny.

There was a FOIR done a few months back, asking how much AHDB had paid to AIC when sponsoring the AIC conference (yes, levy payers contributed a bit of cash to AIC, the organisation that won't let UK producers sell grain to feed mills under same terms as imports).

AHDB readily provided that information. Is that different to the Farmers Weekly FOIR?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

NFU- AIC-RT-AHDB-FW-CF-NFU-AIC...........

See Circle-Jerk.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

NFU- AIC-RT-AHDB-FW-CF-NFU-AIC...........

See Circle-Jerk.

Sorry, I've just googled Circle-jerk and it was a little more explicit than I was expecting.

Too late to edit post so here is a definition;

circle jerk​

The act of constantly sharing the same opinion in a forum full of people who are obviously known to have the same opinion as yours, therefor granting you free upvotes to said opinion, while gathering downvotes to anyone that opposes you on the matter


I couldn't possibly comment on whether the more explicit version applies...

 

[warksfarmer]

Panorama will split it wide open!

 

[Flat 10]

Panorama will split it wide open!

We hope!

 

[An Gof]

Panorama will split it wide open!

Are Panorama producing a programme on it?

 

[Andy Nash]

There was a FOIR done a few months back, asking how much AHDB had paid to AIC when sponsoring the AIC conference (yes, levy payers contributed a bit of cash to AIC, the organisation that won't let UK producers sell grain to feed mills under same terms as imports).

AHDB readily provided that information. Is that different to the Farmers Weekly FOIR?

The way I would explain it is by comparing it to someone spreading pig muck with a rotaspreader with a following wind. They have now realised that they’ve left the back window of the tractor open and simply shut it.

in other words, they felt they could spend levy payers money how ever they felt fit and now it’s a bit more difficult…

 

[Grass And Grain]

NFU- AIC-RT-AHDB-FW-CF-NFU-AIC...........

See Circle-Jerk.

I think you missed out NRoSO from the circle.