Massey Ferguson MF203, 205 or 702 scale model

[Barnaba]

I'm going to make a scale model of an industrial MF equipped with loader and backhoe. My intention is to make a 203, 205 or 702. But I do not have any drawing to do that. Is there anybody who can help me with some drawings of the tractor with the main dimension?
Thanks

 

[essexpete]

There is a parts book on ebay which might have some detailed drawings. Bit expensive mind. If you can't find any thing perhaps find one to photo and measure. They are, as you probably know, essentially a 65 back end mated to a 35 front end plus an industrial front axle. Models ending 3 manual and 5 are torque converter.

 

[Barnaba]

The solution to look for a real one might be the best and is what I usually do when possible. Unfortunately in my area (Italy-Tuscany) it's not easy to find so old industrial machinery. I fear the most have been scraped. I'd like to model this backhoe because this series of MF was quite common when I was a child.

 

[kmo]

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[Barnaba]

I found some side views in the internet. But no quoted top, front and rear views. Is there someone that can provide me the following dimension of 203-205 tractor, 702 loader and 710 backhoe? Thanks.
a. backhoe frame width
b. rear wheel track
c. front bucket width
d. front wheel track

 

[mo!]

I think @multipower had one. We've sold our 205 unfortunately.

 

[essexpete]

Also differences between the original and the Mk2.

 

[essexpete]

Massey Ferguson 220 Backhoe Attachment Parts Manual : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

Massey Ferguson 220 Backhoe Attachment Parts Manual : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

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[essexpete]

TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 40 industrial tractor dimensions information

www.tractordata.com

 

[Barnaba]

Also differences between the original and the Mk2.

Interesting to hear. Which are the differences?

 

[essexpete]

Interesting to hear. Which are the differences?

Not entirely sure but I think it coincided with the change from 65 to 165. Some of the changes would include square mudguards, more modern dash and later hydraulics with drop response.

 

[kmo]

A thread about 2203,s

Massey 202/203

Small industrial tractors that combined the engine of 35 (later 135) with a 65 (later 165) transmission. Ending 3 manual, later option ending 5 instant reverse. They were fitted with service brakes of dry disc and handbrake worked on drums. If fitted with a loader it was a 702 (IIRR) and the hoe...

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Front buckets came in at least two different widths, a full width, and one about four foot.

 

[Barnaba]

Looking at tractordata.com I see that the rear tread might vary (as the most of tractors) from 121 to 193 cm. Does anybody have an idea on how much it should be (recomended) when mounting the backhoe attachment? For sure it would make no sense to have the width over the wheels narrower than the width of the backhoe frame.

And which is the standard wheels size? Should I consider the ones mentioned for MF65 at tractordata? Which size between the following?
Thanks

 

[essexpete]

Fairly sure ours was fitted with 14.00 24 rears originally and maybe later we changed to 16.9 24 as some 2nd hand were available. The fronts were 7.50 16, not sure if they were ever ribbed, we had commercials fitted.