Messy tenant no lease

[farmland123]

Any help appreciated .
I have a tenant on the farm I look after , I’m not the owner . Tenant is in the car business and is busy turning the farm into a scrap yard . I want him out but we have no lease . Any advice is greatly appreciated .
Regards

 

[Andrew K]

Give him a big rent increase he wont want to pay, then get him out if he fails to pay. Why no lease,big mistake.

 

[farmland123]

Give him a big rent increase he wont want to pay, then get him out if he fails to pay. Why no lease,big mistake.

Thanks for reply . Yes no lease big mistake . It was very informal at the start but has got out of hand . I need a specialist solicitor . Do u know of one ? Regards

 

[betweenthelines]

What do you mean by "farm you look after"?

Are you some sort of land agent, are you employed by the owner?

All sounds a bit iffy, the way your first post on TFF is worded.

 

[farmland123]

Hi , I am the main tenant of the farm responsible to a managing agent who work for the landowners . I have a sub tenant who is the messy sub tenant . Managing agents are aware however have left it to me as he is my sub tenant . I hope this clears up yr question . Nothing iffy I have been here 20 years with no issues until this guy .

 

[Cowmansam]

Just call the scrap man in

 

[betweenthelines]

So you are a tenant farmer who has sublet to a non agricultural business who is now giving you grief.

Just tell him the farm owner is threatening to evict both of you. No lease cuts both ways, he can't prove that he has any right of tenure

 

[farmland123]

Thanks for replies but it’s not as simple as that seems the law is more on his side . I really need a solicitor and I’m wondering if anyone on here can recommend one ?

 

[Andrew K]

Where in the country are you?

 

[betweenthelines]

If you haven't taken legal advice yet, why do you think the law is on his side?

I think there is more to this than you have told so far

 

[farmland123]

Hertfordshire

 

[Andrew K]

Try john Scannell at Birketts in Norwich. He is good at your sort of problem, used him a few yrs ago.

 

[farmland123]

If you haven't taken legal advice yet, why do you think the law is on his side?

I think there is more to this than you have told so far

Try john Scannell at Birketts in Norwich. He is good at your sort of problem, used him a few yrs ago.

thanks v much I’ll call him tomorrow .

 

[puppet]

If he is paying you a rent then law will assume there is an agreement. Does your landlord agree to sub-letting?

 

[Skintagain]

I smell something dodgy here.

 

[Formatted]

Contact the Tenant Farmers Association, if you are a member already they'll give you a steer on what best to do and also give you a recommendation on a good tenancy lawyer.

 

[atlas]

How about reporting him to enviroment agency if he breaking cars and not licensed they will take action .

 

[farmland123]

Hi , thanks for that it’s an option . I’m dealing with a solicitor now he’s preparing a lease for tenant to sign them I will have some legal recourse down the line . Thanks again .

 

[D14]

Any help appreciated .
I have a tenant on the farm I look after , I’m not the owner . Tenant is in the car business and is busy turning the farm into a scrap yard . I want him out but we have no lease . Any advice is greatly appreciated .
Regards

You need to physically remove him I am afraid. He'll have to much tenure, even without a lease, to do anything legally without spending thousands. All he has to do is show a court every single rental invoice and that will prove a tenancy of a fashion. I would start by scraping all of his mess as he will struggle to prove its his. It could easily be farm scrap and you could argue that point till the cows come home.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Hi , thanks for that it’s an option . I’m dealing with a solicitor now he’s preparing a lease for tenant to sign them I will have some legal recourse down the line . Thanks again .

Best course of action . ..... get the paperwork in order first