Michael Gove and the Conservatives did this.

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
@richard hammond @DrWazzock I can see many offshore turbines from my bungalow windows.!! Not sure if Richard can as I do not know how low he sits in Hagworthingham but I am nearly 400 ft up near him. Best place for them instead of spoiling our lovely Lincolnshire Wolds.
WB
We went through the preliminary process for a wind turbine application here. We were offered £15k per annum lease for just one turbine on 200 acres. This would have diversified our income and almost replaced BPS. It would have helped secure the future of our business while providing clean power. But Conservative Lincs County Council and our Conservative MP put a blanket ban on wind turbines here. Apparently they spoil the view. The view doesn’t really pay rge bills though. That’s unless you see future as carbon heavy tourism which is partly why every other house in our village will soon be a holiday let with seven cars parked out side every weekend with visitors asking where the pub is and pissing in your garden. If that’s what you see as the future then fine. Get a job cleaning toilets and making beds. But if only we could drop the “let’s keep it like it was in 1756” attitude we could do so much better IMO as an engineer. But really I’m resigned to the fact that we are probably now reliant on government handouts to grow flowers for the bees and seed for the birds for the visiting hoorays to look at. That’s what urban centric MPs have in store for us. Keep us reliant.
And now everybody is moaning about the pylons bringing the power onshore. Well so they want electricity or not?
Just my engineers view of it. Sadly if the Conservatives get their way u can’t see much future in cattle farming either. It’s the methane you see. We know that’s bollox but they’d rather you stopped cattle farming so they can continue jetting off to Prague for the weekend.
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
We went through the preliminary process for a wind turbine application here. We were offered £15k per annum lease for just one turbine on 200 acres. This would have diversified our income and almost replaced BPS. It would have helped secure the future of our business while providing clean power. But Conservative Lincs County Council and our Conservative MP put a blanket ban on wind turbines here. Apparently they spoil the view. The view doesn’t really pay rge bills though. That’s unless you see future as carbon heavy tourism which is partly why every other house in our village will soon be a holiday let with seven cars parked out side every weekend with visitors asking where the pub is and pissing in your garden. If that’s what you see as the future then fine. Get a job cleaning toilets and making beds. But if only we could drop the “let’s keep it like it was in 1756” attitude we could do so much better IMO as an engineer. But really I’m resigned to the fact that we are probably now reliant on government handouts to grow flowers for the bees and seed for the birds for the visiting hoorays to look at. That’s what urban centric MPs have in store for us. Keep us reliant.
And now everybody is moaning about the pylons bringing the power onshore. Well so they want electricity or not?
Just my engineers view of it. Sadly if the Conservatives get their way u can’t see much future in cattle farming either. It’s the methane you see. We know that’s bollox but they’d rather you stopped cattle farming so they can continue jetting off to Prague for the weekend.
Bury the cables pylons are plain horrid for a landscape.
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Wheat, Rape and repeat rotation buggered OSR.
Canada still has neonic dressings and the crops of canola I have seen emerging were riddled with flea beetle damage. A couple of farmers I discussed this with were in full denial; "We are keeping on top of it with seed dressing and sprays".
I told them that they are merely half a dozen years behind us on the slope to resistance, but didn’t make much progress.
 

fgc325j

Member
Blair brown
strong £ wheat £70 a tonne
foot and mouth
half a million rural protesters in London
iraq war invasion on false pretences 1 million protesters
financial market crash
unregulated immigration which ultimately precipitated brexit
Yes - i remember Blair saying that, according to Government research that, "they expect the number of immigrants to peak at around 30,000 before the numbers drop away"
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Why would anyone vote for any of the three main parties, non of the three have any idea at all how to get this country back on it’s feet again & will simply cause more grief.
There’s now nothing between them. That’s what I’m saying.
The cause celebre of our Tory MP is the retention of the Red Arrows air display team in our county. That’s all we ever hear about from him. Let’s leave aside the fact they dump hundreds of gallons of unburnt fuel into our skies every week while we struggle on the ground with diesel particulate filters and that we would be better served concentrating on effective land based anti missile systems than Biggles style outdated fighter aircraft that only seem to serve as an advertising scheme to sell weapons of war and destruction to gullible Arabs..
Best not to think too much about any of it is it?
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Bury the cables pylons are plain horrid for a landscape.
If you had to put up with damage done to drainage systems by gas pipelines you wouldn’t be very keen on burying any utiiity connection. No drains were permitted over pipelines so we are left with a mess of short runs and less than optimal headers. It’s never worked properly since they bodged it back in. I don’t know if they’ll allow reinstatement of drains over buried cable runs or maintenance without permits but it’s a nightmare here with the two pipelines.
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Not so much what's popular but they,all too often these days, pander to the loud,minority who shout the most
Indeed. Minorities that make the most noise are running the show now and it’s getting worse. This will only change when someone appears who actually speaks for the majority. If someone does they’ll win by a landslide.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
Destroyed OSR as a reliable break crop in the U.K. while welcoming in imports grown using chemicals they banned here on the flimsiest of evidence for populist reasons. If that isn’t duplicitous then I don’t know what is.

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At the next election when I go into the polling station I’ll remember this.
Isn't this a symptom of a broken agricultural system, when the only crop or one of the only viable crops is dependent on a banned chemical?
 

Vader

Member
Mixed Farmer
We’ve a badger problem here. Tell me what the Conservatives will allow me to do about it. Nothing is the answer. So might as well vote for anybody else. Can’t spread manure in the autumn, can’t apply urea after end of March. Why don’t they come out with it and just say they want to ban farming rather than do it by a thousand cuts?
I have said before, removing uk farming and putting it down to trees and nature is the only way the gov can meet net zero without going after transportation.

Of course it does nothing to help the planet as just pushes the emissions to another country.
But the greenwash spread sheet will look good
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
It’s all part of the same problem. They said they had our backs, but time after time they prove to be very unreliable friends. I can’t think of one positive thing they’ve done for farming unless you consider SFI to be farming which I dont and which looks more like throwing us 20p for a cuppa as our once great industry lies in the gutter.
Sorry, but having battled to save my OSR and now watching the plants that had looked promising keeling over due to larvae chewing their way right through the stems I’ve absolutely no patience at all with those who rule us. At every election the Tories rattle the tub and farmers run to it but no, not this time. Not this farmer.
Will you vote this time around?

It increasingly strikes me that people will still vote... despite recognition of the fact they're voting for liars and cheats at worst, people lacking integrity at best.

Pays to remember they're only implementing agendas promoted by unelected NGOs, we can shoot the messenger all we like and change the messenger every term, it's still the same message:

When we own nothing, we'll all be equals
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Will you vote this time around?

It increasingly strikes me that people will still vote... despite recognition of the fact they're voting for liars and cheats at worst, people lacking integrity at best.

Pays to remember they're only implementing agendas promoted by unelected NGOs, we can shoot the messenger all we like and change the messenger every term, it's still the same message:

When we own nothing, we'll all be equals
If you get the opportunity vote reform or for an independent otherwise things will never change.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 107 39.9%
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    Votes: 98 36.6%
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  • 50-75%

    Votes: 5 1.9%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 14 5.2%

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