Michael Gove and the Conservatives did this.

[Jackov Altraids]

i could add margaret becket the worst ag minister ever

And who would ever have believed a "useless" Cornish farmer would have given her a run for her money.

 

[czechmate]

I’m not really interested in esoteric theories and ideas but retaining BPS even at 50% woyld have been sensible for the following reasons:
To help us through severe weather events.
To help us meet the higher costs and crop failures we bear due to tighter regulations, restrictions and quality standards.
To help us compete with lower cost lower standard imports they allow in.
The reality is that with this wet winter, many farm businesses will be financially strained like never before. Support via BPS would be sensible.

This much used uk phrase, “lower standards”, quite annoys me.
I grew wheat in leics, sprayed it with 4 fungicides due to intensive cropping and climate. Here, I spray once. I knew which I would rather eat - or feed to my cattle.
BTW, without N osr seed treatments, there are crops of flowering osr all over the shop here. Again, nothing to do with Chem’s but down to sensible rotations

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

They’ll just see farmers getting paid to produce non food crops while food gets more expensive in the shops. Supermarkets margins on turnover aren’t particularly high as a percentage of turnover anyway. It’s just that their turnover is massive. Trying to shift the blame onto supermarkets for what is a DEFRA engineered shortage of supply just won’t hold water.

Theres a long list of non food crops and land use. All driven by the poor returns from growing food.

 

[tullah]

We’ve a badger problem here. Tell me what the Conservatives will allow me to do about it. Nothing is the answer. So might as well vote for anybody else. Can’t spread manure in the autumn, can’t apply urea after end of March. Why don’t they come out with it and just say they want to ban farming rather than do it by a thousand cuts?

Trouble is “anybody else” will give us a worse deal.

 

[David.]

Isn't Mr Tice the gentleman who makes his living enabling wealthy parasites to offshore their money, so that they contribute nothing to running the UK?
Not sure I'd want to pray in his church, tbh.

 

[farmerfred86]

They are still using neonics in many European countries including Ukraine which also happens to be the biggest producer of honey in Europe. Go figure.

I do feel there needs to be post neo-nic research... If the ban hasn't achieved the aims it could be making the problem worse. Often hear bee keepers preferred OSR as it was.
Im happy to live in a world without neo-nic dressings and my gut feeling its right not to be using them.
But if the rest of the world carries on using them and we import (offshore our problems) produce with them its got to be looked at.

 

[MrNoo]

Isn't Mr Tice the gentleman who makes his living enabling wealthy parasites to offshore their money, so that they contribute nothing to running the UK?
Not sure I'd want to pray in his church, tbh.

Yes, he was involved in a major house building scheme locally, all the land was owned by a Co in Bermuda.....!!! It got passed (2,500 houses) and he then removed himself from the board.

 

[MrNoo]

officers

And if you look at the latest set of accounts under "filing" you can see the land is owned by Bathurst Trust (PTC) Ltd BTPL registered in Bermuda.

 

[britishblue]

Isn't Mr Tice the gentleman who makes his living enabling wealthy parasites to offshore their money, so that they contribute nothing to running the UK?
Not sure I'd want to pray in his church, tbh.

Like that's unheard of by the Tories!

 

[robs1]

Bury the cables pylons are plain horrid for a landscape.

But who wants to pay the extra cost ? We have a Ng line three hundred metres from our house, never worried me looking at it. The whole population wants the services we use, whether that's water, electric,gas, roads or rails, they have to go somewhere.

 

[andybk]

This much used uk phrase, “lower standards”, quite annoys me.
I grew wheat in leics, sprayed it with 4 fungicides due to intensive cropping and climate. Here, I spray once. I knew which I would rather eat - or feed to my cattle.
BTW, without N osr seed treatments, there are crops of flowering osr all over the shop here. Again, nothing to do with Chem’s but down to sensible rotations

my landlord grows buck wheat autumn sown with his OSR , looking good crops last few years , does that work on keeping the FB down ?,

 

[Ffermer Bach]

There is no point because the
" conservatives " have been hijacked by lefty liberals and untill they get back to Norman Tebbit mindset what's the point ...

You couldn't make it up , it's as if they are all a plant

I was just telling my partner recently that I really admired Norman Tebbit, and that his is the sort of conservatism I want.

 

[lloyd]

But who wants to pay the extra cost ? We have a Ng line three hundred metres from our house, never worried me looking at it. The whole population wants the services we use, whether that's water, electric,gas, roads or rails, they have to go somewhere.

NG can bury the lines and pass the extra cost on to the distributors it shouldn't
be just take the easiest approach.I have pylons on this farm and they are a pita.
House half a mile up the road has been for sale 5 years unsold because main reason
is proximity to a pylon.Oh and they buried a stretch a few years ago because they were
causing visibility harm to the aonb so they have the means when it suits.

 

[BrianV]

I was just telling my partner recently that I really admired Norman Tebbit, and that his is the sort of conservatism I want.

Norman & his wife had a house not far from here after the bomb blast & although I never met him those locals that had said what a really decent nice chap he was, that's very different to far too many self serving Tory muppets these days.

 

[BrianV]

50% of my bps wouldnt even pay for the weekly shopping … yet i have to compete with big olayers getting 100s thousands , stick your bps its shyt .

BPS was not shite, it was the fact that due to NFU pressure it was never capped, even now at this late stage if they paid it in full for the first 100 hectares it would save one hell of a lot of grief & there would still be enough in the pot to do so if they stopped wasting it on grants for expensive arable machines & grants of up to £250,000 etc to buggers who don't need it.

 

[Billboy1]

After banning neonics here it’s the absolute hypocrisy of allowing imports that have been treated with neonics that hisses me off !

 

[Hilly]

BPS was not shite, it was the fact that due to NFU pressure it was never capped, even now at this late stage if they paid it in full for the first 100 hectares it would save one hell of a lot of grief & there would still be enough in the pot to do so if they stopped wasting it on grants for expensive arable machines & grants of up to £250,000 etc to buggers who don't need it.

Im not into rewarding people for simply owming or renting land , its the worst system i have ever farmed under , so far ….. its been terrible for me .

 

[BrianV]

I do feel there needs to be post neo-nic research... If the ban hasn't achieved the aims it could be making the problem worse. Often hear bee keepers preferred OSR as it was.
Im happy to live in a world without neo-nic dressings and my gut feeling its right not to be using them.
But if the rest of the world carries on using them and we import (offshore our problems) produce with them its got to be looked at.

What puzzles me is that I can just about understand the risk of using it on flowering OSR which attracts bees but how many bees are attracted to the flowers in barley & sugar beet, did someone not think it wise to point out to the morons in charge that those crops don't flower.

 

[BrianV]

Im not into rewarding people for simply owming or renting land , its the worst system i have ever farmed under , so far ….. its been terrible for me .

Good luck with this latest farce then.

 

[Hilly]

Good luck with this latest farce then.

Scotland , we are still on the bps farce. Look up region 2 and see how much i get per acre ! A scabby ewe makes more yet i have to compete with them on region 1 which is much better land and 5 times more £