Milk Price Tracker

Farmer Keith

Member
Location
North Cumbria
As a collective we Dairy farmers are absolute experts at controlling our production post quota are we not.

Fortunately world markets appear to be on our side at the moment but part of maintaining a decent price comes from us ensuring that we are not producing more milk than the market requires.

The guys sitting on some of the big company boards don’t really need much of an excuse to cut the price when there’s not enough processing capacity in the country do they.
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
As a collective we Dairy farmers are absolute experts at controlling our production post quota are we not.

Fortunately world markets appear to be on our side at the moment but part of maintaining a decent price comes from us ensuring that we are not producing more milk than the market requires.

The guys sitting on some of the big company boards don’t really need much of an excuse to cut the price when there’s not enough processing capacity in the country do they.

Would a A litre B litre pricing system not benefit everyone long term?

Let the settled production guys plod along getting a fair milk price all of the time and let the high rollers selling a lot of B litres get bent over in a surplus or cash in during a deficit.
 

Homesy

Member
Location
North West Devon
Don't worry. Brexit has been denied by the elites. We are either going to cancel article 50 or have a very soft Brexit. The general consensus among economists is that the pound will rise by minimum of 15% against the Euro. Arla will then drop their price by at least 4p. All the other companies will follow suit blaming market forces. Milk production will fall. Then there will not be any worries about capacity and we will once again become a dumping ground for Europe's dairy produce. Nothing to worry about.
Of course if we had a no deal Brexit, the pound is expected to fall by 10% against the Euro. That would result in Arla putting up their price by 3p. Milk production would then rise causing all sorts of problems.
So when your milk price drops, find one of those wonderful Remainers and thank them personally for saving us from all those capacity issues.
 

bigw

Member
Location
Scotland
Don't worry. Brexit has been denied by the elites. We are either going to cancel article 50 or have a very soft Brexit. The general consensus among economists is that the pound will rise by minimum of 15% against the Euro. Arla will then drop their price by at least 4p. All the other companies will follow suit blaming market forces. Milk production will fall. Then there will not be any worries about capacity and we will once again become a dumping ground for Europe's dairy produce. Nothing to worry about.
Of course if we had a no deal Brexit, the pound is expected to fall by 10% against the Euro. That would result in Arla putting up their price by 3p. Milk production would then rise causing all sorts of problems.
So when your milk price drops, find one of those wonderful Remainers and thank them personally for saving us from all those capacity issues.

Have you not seen the tariffs that are being proposed by the UK government? We are pretty much shafted whatever we do.
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Don't worry. Brexit has been denied by the elites. We are either going to cancel article 50 or have a very soft Brexit. The general consensus among economists is that the pound will rise by minimum of 15% against the Euro. Arla will then drop their price by at least 4p. All the other companies will follow suit blaming market forces. Milk production will fall. Then there will not be any worries about capacity and we will once again become a dumping ground for Europe's dairy produce. Nothing to worry about.
Of course if we had a no deal Brexit, the pound is expected to fall by 10% against the Euro. That would result in Arla putting up their price by 3p. Milk production would then rise causing all sorts of problems.
So when your milk price drops, find one of those wonderful Remainers and thank them personally for saving us from all those capacity issues.

Main reason uk market is collapsing and arla are holding up is because all uk export markets are currently fudged due to brexit uncertainty making spring peak difficult to move
 
Don't worry. Brexit has been denied by the elites. We are either going to cancel article 50 or have a very soft Brexit. The general consensus among economists is that the pound will rise by minimum of 15% against the Euro. Arla will then drop their price by at least 4p. All the other companies will follow suit blaming market forces. Milk production will fall. Then there will not be any worries about capacity and we will once again become a dumping ground for Europe's dairy produce. Nothing to worry about.
Of course if we had a no deal Brexit, the pound is expected to fall by 10% against the Euro. That would result in Arla putting up their price by 3p. Milk production would then rise causing all sorts of problems.
So when your milk price drops, find one of those wonderful Remainers and thank them personally for saving us from all those capacity issues.
Can’t work out whether your a bitter brexiter bitterabout the referendum full stop or just bitter about production levels:scratchhead::scratchhead::scratchhead:
 

I thats it

Member
Would a A litre B litre pricing system not benefit everyone long term?

Let the settled production guys plod along getting a fair milk price all of the time and let the high rollers selling a lot of B litres get bent over in a surplus or cash in during a deficit.
I'm all for this A and B pricing, where those expanding take the risk and potential reward, I was so frustrated when our processor implemented it then used it as a club to beat us when job was bad and still used as a just slightly smaller club to beat us when the job was good!! There were months when some processors were paying very very high B prices and we were still getting less than the A price.
 

Homesy

Member
Location
North West Devon
Main reason uk market is collapsing and arla are holding up is because all uk export markets are currently fudged due to brexit uncertainty making spring peak difficult to move

Not criticising Arla at all. I think that they have done an excellent job for their members and other farmers as well. Just pointing out the reality of a rising pound when Brexit is cancelled or softened. 15% rise against the euro will result in a 4p cut. Just the way their pricing works.
 

Homesy

Member
Location
North West Devon
Can’t work out whether your a bitter brexiter bitterabout the referendum full stop or just bitter about production levels:scratchhead::scratchhead::scratchhead:

Not bitter. Angry about how a no deal is portrayed as something disastrous and no Brexit is going to wonderful. For us and every other manufacturer a stronger pound is going to be bad news.
If there is a no deal Brexit then the pound will fall and nullify most effects from tariffs.
I am very much a Brexiteer and will be very p****d off when we don't leave. Although I do hate what the EU has done to our industry it's not just about farming . More the lack of sovereignty and democracy.
 

PREES

Member
Location
SW Wales
Not criticising Arla at all. I think that they have done an excellent job for their members and other farmers as well. Just pointing out the reality of a rising pound when Brexit is cancelled or softened. 15% rise against the euro will result in a 4p cut. Just the way their pricing works.

So I think you are admitting that anything positive in terms of the economy over the last 2 years since the referendum is down to the collapse in the pound rather than Brexit! The catastrophe that was (correctly!) predicted by the remain campaign has only been delayed by the fall in the pound and if we proceed with any form of Brexit we will eventually suffer economically and in terms of influence!
 
Not criticising Arla at all. I think that they have done an excellent job for their members and other farmers as well. Just pointing out the reality of a rising pound when Brexit is cancelled or softened. 15% rise against the euro will result in a 4p cut. Just the way their pricing works.

That is not entirely correct as the income to Arla from the UK will also increase. That will potentially give a 15% increase in just over 1/4 of Arla's total income. This effect has been happening in reverse since the Brexit vote and has reduced Arla's price by over a € cent currently.
 

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