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peclova

Member
the trouble is, if they go down, who do they take ? While I think the loss of 1 or 2 of the scum processors, would be a positive, its how do they go, without hurting farmers ? with extended payment terms, it could finish off a farmer or two, as well.

If they do go under they will be back the next day - same premises, same plant, same owners, different name and no debts.
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Absolutely shameful to see freshways have put their price up but not to the people who have put notice in or not signed their pathetic terms. Frankly disgusting

Covid seems to have been enough for companies to claim force majeure and completely ignore previous pricing/contract terms, if someone did have another contract on the table and another buyer ready to pick them up straight surely they could tell fresh ways to stick it? Guess the 2months plus of money owed could be a sticking point.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Covid seems to have been enough for companies to claim force majeure and completely ignore previous pricing/contract terms, if someone did have another contract on the table and another buyer ready to pick them up straight surely they could tell fresh ways to stick it? Guess the 2months plus of money owed could be a sticking point.
interesting article yesterday, the financial authorities, are taking 16 insurance companies to court, over their refusal to pay claims, for c19, several more backed down ! Has anyone questioned the validity of those shite milk contracts ?
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
interesting article yesterday, the financial authorities, are taking 16 insurance companies to court, over their refusal to pay claims, for c19, several more backed down ! Has anyone questioned the validity of those shite milk contracts ?
The problem with taking them on is that your milk needs collecting and they might, no, probably would tell you where to stick it. A third entity or the Union would need to take them on and, unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen either.
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
The problem with taking them on is that your milk needs collecting and they might, no, probably would tell you where to stick it. A third entity or the Union would need to take them on and, unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen either.

and they still have 10’s of thousands of your money for milk picked up 1-2 months previous.
 
Location
West Wales
Covid seems to have been enough for companies to claim force majeure and completely ignore previous pricing/contract terms, if someone did have another contract on the table and another buyer ready to pick them up straight surely they could tell fresh ways to stick it? Guess the 2months plus of money owed could be a sticking point.

I think there needs to be a serious review of milk contracts in this manor. If the boot was on the other foot then all hell would break loose if we told our buyers they either pay us more or we leaving effective Immediately. They say they need time to plan so why can’twe be afford the same opportunities
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
after the sudden price drops, it would be interesting to see their reaction, if a farmer did get an alternative contract, and left, without notice. If, they didn't fight it, or lost a case, with milk predicted to be short, going forward into the autumn, and winter, there could well be options to change, especially for the bigger producers, by citing the c19 price drop, without notice or ?legality ?
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Yeah, they pulled that one on me back around then.
New buyer was ok to take my milk immediately as they were getting it on a milk swap anyway.

As I was leaving, Firsts position was why should they do anything to help me.

Because you were supplying the milk and owned them........ to be fair FM and freshways are very different entities and shouldnt be compared, one is a farmer owned once poorly run coop and needed every penny to survive, the other is a privately owned business where every penny they can save paying back to farmers is a penny in their pocket.
 
Location
cumbria
Because you were supplying the milk and owned them........ to be fair FM and freshways are very different entities and shouldnt be compared, one is a farmer owned once poorly run coop and needed every penny to survive, the other is a privately owned business where every penny they can save paying back to farmers is a penny in their pocket.

Better to part on good terms rather than hostile was my argument.
A burnt bridge could be down for generations.

Still, their choice. The farmer rep was quite supportive and she was saddened by the FM chaps attitude.
What goes around though, I may run into him in some other guise one day

Way back now but I remember taking Promar up on one of their free consultation offers. Chap rolls up, nice car, nice suit and I half recognise him.
Then it dawn's on me it's a former DFOB bigwig.
The 10 mins he spent in my yard before being told to leave were quite enjoyable ?.
 

I thats it

Member
Better to part on good terms rather than hostile was my argument.
A burnt bridge could be down for generations.

Still, their choice. The farmer rep was quite supportive and she was saddened by the FM chaps attitude.
What goes around though, I may run into him in some other guise one day

Way back now but I remember taking Promar up on one of their free consultation offers. Chap rolls up, nice car, nice suit and I half recognise him.
Then it dawn's on me it's a former DFOB bigwig.
The 10 mins he spent in my yard before being told to leave were quite enjoyable [emoji16].
Name escapes me but he did same here
 
Just reading off Ian Potter's latest news briefing - very positive for a change - it appears the milk market should be gearing up for some much needed farmgate price rises - according to him ''the expert'' not me - so what does everybody on here think? Supposedly Arla have been saying that the next move in price will be a negative one, does that mean that UK domestic milk buyers will be able to hold off from giving out increases? AKA Muller et al?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Some people that should know the business reckon that the spot market will crash through 40ppl by August/Sept. I am willing to bet that the same companies that tore up or defaulted on their contracts last month are now about to offer new contracts while insisting that suppliers abide by them to the letter and litre later this Summer.
 

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