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[Milkcow365]

so how does it work when a farm fails but the tanker passes ? Sulotion to pollution is dilution

 

[Princess Pooper]

God help us. No wonder they are cracking down on us. If your farm fails, your farm fails and your dairy will no doubt apply penalties, and you may get a visit from Environmental Health.

 

[Milkcow365]

God help us. No wonder they are cracking down on us. If your farm fails, your farm fails and your dairy will no doubt apply penalties, and you may get a visit from Environmental Health.

I’ve never had a fail I’m just asking how it all works i didn’t even know it was such a big thing, would they dump a trunker full of milk?

 

[watcher72]

I’ve never had a fail I’m just asking how it all works i didn’t even know it was such a big thing, would they dump a trunker full of milk?

And meanwhile back in the real world.....

 

[Milkcow365]

And meanwhile back in the real world.....

By this I mean that it happens as often as people say, very much in the real world here

 

[kp_n_plghng]

so how does it work when a farm fails but the tanker passes ? Sulotion to pollution is dilution

In theory the processor would have to dump by law? Same as we would if cow failed but bulk tank passes

 

[vantage]

I think its a case of tightening up for the repeat offenders.

 

[lazy farmer]

I think its a case of tightening up for the repeat offenders.

It’s more than that

 

[watcher72]

Test needs to be way more sensitive to catch the real offenders.

 

[lazy farmer]

I don’t think there’s an issue with the test
Product s like betomox are over sensitive on the on farm test.
Whether you think internationally set residue levels are too high is another matter.

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Isn't there a more sensitive test coming called the ranex or something like that?

 

[Milkcow365]

Test needs to be way more sensitive to catch the real offenders.

I think you’re a informer or something the way you’re going on

 

[Whitepeak]

That would come down to the person having done the course updating your protocols and then communicating them to the milking staff.
In your situation one would hope there already pretty good considering the amount of people involved in the operation.

The person(s) responsible for protocols would be the attendees in your example.

Well seeing as there isn't currently a written down protocol for anything and training is, how shall I put it, a bit hit and miss it can only be a good thing if it concentrates their minds into writing and communicating protocols.

certainly for our dairy, all milking staff and anyone who administers medicines (not just antibiotics) to the herd even if they don't milk. Often the owner is the only one who hardly every milks....the more staff who milk the more scope there is for an antibiotic fail and the need for rigid protocols. New staff members will have to be trained within I think it was 6 months of starting with a herd.

I can see that going down well with one or 2 of the old timers who think they know it all and think they run the spot I'd relish some training like that though, I'd feel more valued as an employee for a start.

 

[watcher72]

so how does it work when a farm fails but the tanker passes ? Sulotion to pollution is dilution

I think you’re a informer or something the way you’re going on

With an attitudes like that , that's the reason for my comment.

 

[som farmer]

lorry has a quick test, 10 minutes, if it passes tank unloads, and is used. all samples are subject to a proper test,
if you fail on this, you get penalties, bill for whole lorry load, cost of disposal etc, oh, but they have already used the tanker load. fair enough if the tanker failed the quick test, but a bit harsh otherwise. we have had 2 failures in 15 years, both tracked down to fresh calvers failing after recommended withdrawal period. we now delvo test every thing, and its supprising how many fresh calvers take longer than the recommended period.

 

[vantage]

Do the countries that have vet only administered antibiotics have a clean sheet regarding failures? Just wondering.

 

[Tanker driver]

I’ve never had a fail I’m just asking how it all works i didn’t even know it was such a big thing, would they dump a trunker full of milk?

Yes they would

 

[Ducati899]

Never had a fresh calver fail after sticking to the correct withdrawal period in 22 years here

 

[Beef farmer]

Do the countries that have vet only administered antibiotics have a clean sheet regarding failures? Just wondering.

Yes they still have failures, but 4x less. The USA has 20x less failures. We where told few farms can stick 2 failures in the states, the fines are too big they fold.

 

[lazy farmer]

Yeah we were told the same. We are miles behind.

It’s interesting how barbers have improved theirs failure levels from moving to A stick based regime from a carrot based one previously.