Mixed up meat

[Slippery Slope]

It's very frustrating to wake up to news like this yet again. The BBC reports that a fifth of FSA samples in 2017 reveal unspecified traces of animal DNA.

Brace yourselves for another day of vegan propaganda.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45371852#share-tools

 

[Tomo23]

"Meat labelled as lamb was most likely to contain traces of other animals DNA"

Just what we need on LoveLambWeek.

 

[johnspeehs]

Once again those further up the food chain fecking it up for all of us but no doubt there will be lots of pictures of cattle and sheep somehow implying that farmers are responsible.

 

[HolzKopf]

Bring back a Min of Ag - DEFRA's not concerned or capable of policing this sort of 'Rural Affair'. By the time FSA are involved it's generally too late

HK

 

[spin cycle]

so much for all this tdug crap......they need to be focussing ay yje other end of the chain

 

[stirdup]

As I read it the samples were taken from targeted businesses, so the authorities suspected they were dodgy already.

 

[Steevo]

If this isn't a good reason for people to buy unprocessed joints of meat, I don't know what is.

A leg of lamb doesn't allow for much hiding after all.

 

[Slippery Slope]

As I read it the samples were taken from targeted businesses, so the authorities suspected they were dodgy already.

The problem lies with the attention grabbing headlines that do damage to the whole meat sector.

Worryingly, one of the 'dodgy ' businesses was a supermarket.

 

[Steevo]

The problem lies with the attention grabbing headlines that do damage to the whole meat sector.

Worryingly, one of the 'dodgy ' businesses was a supermarket.

From the article:

A BBC Freedom of Information request to the FSA revealed that in total 73 of the contaminated samples came from retailers - including three supermarkets. A further 50 came from restaurants, while 22 originated from manufacturing or food processing plants.

 

[Tarw Coch]

From the article:

A BBC Freedom of Information request to the FSA revealed that in total 73 of the contaminated samples came from retailers - including three supermarkets. A further 50 came from restaurants, while 22 originated from manufacturing or food processing plants.

No farms on that list then.

 

[Steevo]

The meat could have contained horse, or dog for anyone knows....


The FSA explained the "majority" of samples were tested for cow, pig, sheep, goat, horse, chicken and turkey DNA because those animals represent the "overwhelming majority" of livestock reared, slaughtered and imported in the UK.

DNA from other animals could have been present in some samples, but may not have been identified as testers were not looking for it.

According to the FSA, the inclusion of DNA at a proportion of 1% or greater should be considered consistent with "deliberate inclusion".

Samples contaminated by un-named DNA at a level of less than 1% were excluded from the results on the basis they could have been caused by poor hygiene.

 

[milkloss]

It’s fine: the TDUG had it under control

 

[Woolless]

"Meat labelled as lamb was most likely to contain traces of other animals DNA"

Just what we need on LoveLambWeek.

I would guess quite a few of these would have been donner kebab rolls? Saw a programme where at Trading Standards man took a sample of 'lamb donner kebeb' which had pork (?) in it.

 

[kfpben]

I saw it on the BBC website.

They had an image of each farmed species with a % of wrong meat found in the investigation beside it. The sheep picture was of a lamb about 3 days old FFS!

 

[JCMaloney]

Many years ago I would deliver to a kebab manufacturers..................... pretty much anything as long as it was cheap.
The workroom floor was covered in cardboard box`s to soak up blood/grease etc.
When I enquired as to how often the cardboard was removed (it was about 6 inches thick and decaying) the owner laughed & said "When the meat is too expensive..........."

I don`t think he was lying.

 

[joe soapy]

I would guess quite a few of these would have been donner kebab rolls? Saw a programme where at Trading Standards man took a sample of 'lamb donner kebeb' which had pork (?) in it.

its only recently that the cosy relationship tween supermarkets and trading standards was shook a tiny bit

 

[DrWazzock]

"Traces". So maybe a bit that was left in the mincer from the previous job. Does it really matter. Mother once bought some beef mince from the butcher that tasted a bit muttony. She mentioned it to him and he said well you ought to have a bit of mint sauce with it then.

I once went to the butchers to buy a bag of salt and went into the back room where the bloke was filling the mincer. He was busy talking about something and wasn't really looking at what he was putting in it. Those were the days, happy and carefree.

People are so picky now.

 

[Woolless]

"Traces". So maybe a bit that was left in the mincer from the previous job. Does it really matter. Mother once bought some beef mince from the butcher that tasted a bit muttony. She mentioned it to him and he said well you ought to have a bit of mint sauce with it then.

I once went to the butchers to buy a bag of salt and went into the back room where the bloke was filling the mincer. He was busy talking about something and wasn't really looking at what he was putting in it. Those were the days, happy and carefree.

People are so picky now.

I don't know if I would consider it picky if my religion decreed that pork was beyond the pale, yet my halal lamb kebab contained some! Not to mention substitution of a more expensive meat for a cheaper one.

You have a point where it genuinely is traces. But some of this work will have detected food fraud.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

"Traces". So maybe a bit that was left in the mincer from the previous job. Does it really matter. Mother once bought some beef mince from the butcher that tasted a bit muttony. She mentioned it to him and he said well you ought to have a bit of mint sauce with it then.

I once went to the butchers to buy a bag of salt and went into the back room where the bloke was filling the mincer. He was busy talking about something and wasn't really looking at what he was putting in it. Those were the days, happy and carefree.

People are so picky now.

Bit more than contamination from traces left over it seems:

The meat could have contained horse, or dog for anyone knows....


The FSA explained the "majority" of samples were tested for cow, pig, sheep, goat, horse, chicken and turkey DNA because those animals represent the "overwhelming majority" of livestock reared, slaughtered and imported in the UK.

DNA from other animals could have been present in some samples, but may not have been identified as testers were not looking for it.

According to the FSA, the inclusion of DNA at a proportion of 1% or greater should be considered consistent with "deliberate inclusion".

Samples contaminated by un-named DNA at a level of less than 1% were excluded from the results on the basis they could have been caused by poor hygiene.

 

[caveman]

To be discussed on James Obrien phone in show on LBC radio at eleven this morning.
Bound to become a vegan fest without those with a stake in the industry taking part.