Moisture Claims

[principal skinner]

Five loads gone out today off the same heap,average moisture 14.45%, last load 15.2% (included in the average) subject to a claim. Worth arguing the toss about or pay up and forget it??

 

[An Gof]

Challenge

 

[Wooly]

Robbing barstewards !!

 

[JonL]

Ask for a retest if nothing else. Had a claim refunded last week on very similar figures

 

[Phil P]

Wasn’t moved by Fronter going into Manchester by any chance?

 

[Billboy1]

If it was frontier Manchester it should be ok average 15 or below

 

[principal skinner]

Wasn’t moved by Fronter going into Manchester by any chance?

How did you guess that!!!!

 

[chaffcutter]

Do they not average over the contract tonnage?

 

[JCfarmer]

Definitely challenge, its taking the piiss. Have a word with frontier

 

[Bernardbean]

Challenge, nothing to lose, robbing so and so's......

 

[Phil P]

How did you guess that!!!!

I know of two people who’ve had clams on moisture, one of whom runs his own commercial grain storage. He had a load that was been moved by openfield and got diverted to Manchester so frontier wouldn’t have known it was coming from him. They said the moisture was near 16%, of corse he demanded an independent test! Two weeks later they said the moisture was fine and there would be no penalties. However they refused to show him any test results!!!!

 

[Phil P]

I know of two people who’ve had clams on moisture, one of whom runs his own commercial grain storage. He had a load that was been moved by openfield and got diverted to Manchester so frontier wouldn’t have known it was coming from him. They said the moisture was near 16%, of corse he demanded an independent test! Two weeks later they said the moisture was fine and there would be no penalties. However they refused to show him any test results!!!!

Ps. he also works for the NFU so is looking at how many others are getting claims from Frontier/Manchester on moisture and seeing whether to get trading standards involved if it’s happening to enough people.

 

[principal skinner]

A phone call will be made first thing tomorrow. Will post the outcome. Thanks guys.

 

[Phil P]

A phone call will be made first thing tomorrow. Will post the outcome. Thanks guys.

If your confident the moisture is ok demand an independent test, I’ll bet it will come back as ok as they won’t even send it away! It’s getting to be a common theme with Manchester at the moment, they must think farmers don’t talk to each other

 

[Walton2]

Frontier/Cargills....surely not!

 

[farmerbeets69]

Five loads gone out today off the same heap,average moisture 14.45%, last load 15.2% (included in the average) subject to a claim. Worth arguing the toss about or pay up and forget it??

I feel your pain...i'd string them up

 

[Farmer Roy]

Still a lot better than sending it 400km & then getting it REJECTED for moisture . . .

 

[solo]

If it’s all on one contract at Manchester through frontier then you will be notified of claims on a particular load, but averaging will trigger a repayment of the claim once the contract has been fulfilled.

 

[An Gof]

Ps. he also works for the NFU so is looking at how many others are getting claims from Frontier/Manchester on moisture and seeing whether to get trading standards involved if it’s happening to enough people.

I know the person well
No good picking on the wrong ones especially when they dry grain with biomass and get a RHI incentive which means it pays them to overdry

mid you don’t challenge these claims you will get a name for being a soft touch.

 

[An Gof]

Ps. he also works for the NFU so is looking at how many others are getting claims from Frontier/Manchester on moisture and seeing whether to get trading standards involved if it’s happening to enough people.

I know the person well
No good picking on the wrong ones especially when they dry grain with biomass and get a RHI incentive which means it pays them to overdry

If you don’t challenge these claims you will get a name for being a soft touch.