Moss

[Daveh]

Don't do too good a job though or they will want a small fortune next year for it in rent.

 

[banjo]

Got a few fields similar, we springtime harrowed it pulling all the moss out ( brilliant thing) then slit seeded Italian rye grass into it. It's come well and I was pretty surprised.
in the long term it needs ploughing but to get a few years of better grazing it helps.
The grass seed cost around £200 every four acres, I also limed it and fert.

 

[Great In Grass]

Got a few fields similar, we springtime harrowed it pulling all the moss out ( brilliant thing) then slit seeded Italian rye grass into it. It's come well and I was pretty surprised.
in the long term it needs ploughing but to get a few years of better grazing it helps.
The grass seed cost around £200 every four acres, I also limed it and fert.

Don't you mean nearer £100.00 for IRG your figure is quite high.

 

[exmoor dave]

Just to add a spanner to the works

We see alot of moss on all our North facing slopes from late autumn to spring. one particularly bad patch we tested expecting terrible results, but came back ph 6.2
P 2 &K 2.

So that wasn't the trouble,

So tried harrowing at the start of the winter, sure pulled loads of moss out...... a couple weeks later you'd never knew you'd done it as it all grew back.

So harrowed in the spring, this time the grass was actively growing so the moss didn't have a chance to come back, but come the autumn it was back just the same.


I can only assume it's a sunlight (lack of) thing, compounded by the fact that given the choice the stock won't graze on the north side in the winter.
And possibly the fact the north facing slopes never really dry out in the winter.

 

[Six Dogs]

We have loads of HLS ground all in schemes where you can't Harrow,fert,etc guess what happens next?
Loads of termite mounds the inspectors love them,healthy sign of undisturbed grassland!
Can we Harrow them?No,they are just gonna get bigger and bigger,we get sheep cast on them but they pay the money,landlord says no choice!

 

[SilliamWhale]

Just to add a spanner to the works

We see alot of moss on all our North facing slopes from late autumn to spring. one particularly bad patch we tested expecting terrible results, but came back ph 6.2
P 2 &K 2.

So that wasn't the trouble,

So tried harrowing at the start of the winter, sure pulled loads of moss out...... a couple weeks later you'd never knew you'd done it as it all grew back.

So harrowed in the spring, this time the grass was actively growing so the moss didn't have a chance to come back, but come the autumn it was back just the same.


I can only assume it's a sunlight (lack of) thing, compounded by the fact that given the choice the stock won't graze on the north side in the winter.
And possibly the fact the north facing slopes never really dry out in the winter.

On my no till fields I sometimes get a lot of moss in the winter and then it dissapears later on when the plants shade it out. Its odd because the ph is quite high.

 

[exmoor dave]

On my no till fields I sometimes get a lot of moss in the winter and then it dissapears later on when the plants shade it out. Its odd because the ph is quite high.

Dad reckons that N gets rid of moss, but I think it's more likely it's just coincidence that N goes on in the spring when the moss is disappearing anyway,

 

[banjo]

Don't you mean nearer £100.00 for IRG your figure is quite high.

I cross hatched the field both ways and left the setting as it was because it's worked well on other fields. Better more than too little

 

[rjs15t]

I have a cracking deal running on a Renovation mix containing intermediate and Late Perennial Ryegrasses which would be ideal in these types of situations.

Please pm for more info.

 

[Jackson4]

Ive never seen the moss do so well, though i have been maybe a bit shy with fert for a few years but on the road sides and moor, and upland pastures its thrived, a carpet of vivid limeish coloured green. Must have been the wet autumn.

 

[same crap different day]

Got some ground like this -

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Whats the best way of getting it improved? Harrow?

I've got some fields with moss , last few weeks they've been a life saver for feeding the twins with the snacker and just somewhere dry to lie down but soon as the weather improves the einbock soon sorts it out for the summer

 

[rjs15t]

I've got some fields with moss , last few weeks they've been a life saver for feeding the twins with the snacker and just somewhere dry to lie down but soon as the weather improves the einbock soon sorts it out for the summer

Every black cloud has a silver lining!!

If you need a bit of seed I can beat the other guys prices

 

[Farmerscottuk]

We have seen a lot of moss on our pastures this spring. Limed and fibrophosed recently and all levels came back good. Putting it down to the wet winter. I was told by our seed merchant when he came to have a look that 25kg per hectare of ferrous sulphate would kill it dead. Im going to give it s go.

 

[spin cycle]

Dad reckons that N gets rid of moss, but I think it's more likely it's just coincidence that N goes on in the spring when the moss is disappearing anyway,

listen to your dad he's right....min 40 units n and moss will go

 

[clemmo]

N killing the moss or grass growing faster?

 

[spin cycle]

N killing the moss or grass growing faster?

i don't exactly know...but i'd guess the fact that nitrogen fert attracts water dessicates the moss that likes moisture?

 

[clemmo]

Combination of several factors I would have thought

 

[exmoor dave]

Combination of several factors I would have thought

Bit of G-lime would sort it ay clemmo

 

[clemmo]

I doubt it

 

[exmoor dave]

I doubt it

Any how less bout moss.......

Have you been out with the rods much this winter?

I've not had a chance since Nov, was only catching doggies then.

Will be after some bass once shearing is over