New clusters

[it's not over]

Thought the same until we changed

What advantages did you find with the bigger bowl, why did you change

 

[Suckndiesel]

What advantages did you find with the bigger bowl, why did you change

As I said, better vacuum at cups and also the other advantage is in nearly 15 years we have never had a smashed bowl. Saying that 3k would buy you a fair few bowls.
We were in half a notion of using the old Alfa ones in the new parlour due to the bulkiness, but then decided different. We tried 5 different clusters in the old parlour at the time before deciding.

 

[Fergieman]

what's wrong with the ADF ?

Cost?

 

[jimmer]

Wesfalia 300 clusters are nigh on indestructible, fed up with alfa 150s breaking tops and liners wearing through on nipples
My 2nd hand 300s were 90 quid complete and are as good as new

 

[Beef farmer]

what's wrong with the ADF ?

Cost to run...stiched up on liners that dont last. Dont think on our system it achieves anything. No one likes milking with it, big clumsy unit. Fed up with pipes popping off and spraying acid in ya face at 2000 psi

 

[Homesy]

Cost to run...stiched up on liners that dont last. Dont think on our system it achieves anything. No one likes milking with it, big clumsy unit. Fed up with pipes popping off and spraying acid in ya face at 2000 psi

I used to milk on a farm with them. Never had any problems. Reduced mastitis dramatically.

 

[Beef farmer]

I used to milk on a farm with them. Never had any problems. Reduced mastitis dramatically.

Reducing 3 cases from 300 cows in a season any further will take more than ADF.

 

[Blue.]

A local lad was telling me his cell count had risen and was having lots of mastitis and he put it down to his dad and son not liming the beds (he hadn’t noticed they weren’t) his cluster flush wasn’t doing much either.

 

[it's not over]

I think part of the problem with high cell counts is down to too many inexperienced people milking

 

[Devon lad]

Can y

I think part of the problem with high cell counts is down to too many inexperienced people milking

can you expand on that please, we operate with 4 youngish lads (20-35yo) doing the milking, our scc sits at 150 ish. Was best (80-100) when it was just me and a 21yo girl who was excellent with stock, but unfortunately 300+ animals was physically too much for her on a regular basis.

 

[Blue.]

I think part of the problem with high cell counts is down to too many inexperienced people milking

Experienced milkers can a problem,just because they have experience doesn’t mean they do it right.

 

[Aircooled]

Ive been using this type of cluster/claw since the early 80s,it's still available today on the delaval web page, I've recently updated the parlour with new pulsation, new milk meters and new acrs, all gea, should I upgrade my claws too,is there any advantage,I can upgrade to a gea claw complete with shells and liners for £150 or less,3k in total,what should I doView attachment 824843

Z did u stick with the old clusters? A boy told me the westfalia 300's break too. Ofcourse I told him that's not what I heard.

 

[jimmer]

Z did u stick with the old clusters? A boy told me the westfalia 300's break too. Ofcourse I told him that's not what I heard.

I've milked nigh on 2 million cows on 300s and never had a single breakage

 

[Aircooled]

I've milked nigh on 2 million cows on 300s and never had a single breakage

Sounds good. My cows manage to chip,crack or smash alfas at a rate of 1 per month. What liner do you recommend with them?

 

[it's not over]

Z did u stick with the old clusters? A boy told me the westfalia 300's break too. Ofcourse I told him that's not what I heard.

Kept the old ones. Couldn't see the point in spending 3 or 4 k if they do the same job. Breaking tops once a month too. Replacing with cheaper copies

 

[Dead Rabbits]

I've milked nigh on 2 million cows on 300s and never had a single breakage

They don’t mix all to well with rotaries, but nothing else would either.

 

[Beef farmer]

I've milked nigh on 2 million cows on 300s and never had a single breakage

Can you show your workings please. ?

 

[it's not over]

Can you show your workings please. [emoji24]

Three hundred thousand and 34,nine hundred a d seventy four thousand give it take one

 

[jimmer]

Can you show your workings please. ?

12 years , 200 cows , twice a day

 

[More to life]

I found the mc11 started to flood when yields hit 8000kg switched to the mc31 which was a massive improvement twenty years on and history is repeating itself an upgrade is due.