New Defender Commercial

[hally]

Bit of an update. There is no discount on Defender, nothing. Tried NFU, Anglia, Military. None of them can get discount.

Discovery is another story, there's some very good deals about to the extent the D300 Discovery is £14,000 cheaper than the same spec Defender and £4000 cheaper than basic basic spec Defender. Just a shame its a bit ugly.

You will get used to that for 14k. what are the exact costs for the defender?

 

[mf7480]

You will get used to that for 14k. what are the exact costs for the defender?

The costs are exactly what they are on the website. £62k including VAT for a reasonable but by no means top spec 110. So about £51,500. Add air suspension, D300 engine, driver assist, Meridian radio etc and you're up to £57k+VAT. A basic 90 is about £43k. Get clicking on the options list and you're soon at £100,000 for a diesel commercial defender.

 

[ollie989898]

Seriously, if you are considering punting 50K or thereabouts on an LR product I'd be getting a Toyota Land Cruiser made, at least it won't break your heart mechanically!

 

[hally]

The costs are exactly what they are on the website. £62k including VAT for a reasonable but by no means top spec 110. So about £51,500. Add air suspension, D300 engine, driver assist, Meridian radio etc and you're up to £57k+VAT. A basic 90 is about £43k.

That’s strong money for a commercial vehicle no matter how good. I am fancying a van type 4x4 next time as never was a double cab fan and looked at a Toyota Land Cruiser lwb 32k but no leather seats and only 3ton towing. Have a D5 and find it very impressive tbh a great family car and pulls a caravan like it’s not there

 

[Ducati899]

That’s strong money for a commercial vehicle no matter how good. I am fancying a van type 4x4 next time as never was a double cab fan and looked at a Toyota Land Cruiser lwb 32k but no leather seats and only 3ton towing. Have a D5 and find it very impressive tbh a great family car and pulls a caravan like it’s not there

+1 for disco 5,I really enjoy driving mine

 

[Frankzy]

Top gear don't know their arses from their elbows. It has very few actual computers. What it does have is a simplified wiring system utilising a ring of wires called a CAN-Bus network that cuts down on the actual wiring needed by around two-thirds. These communicate digitally between the ECU or several ECU's and various components like individual windows, door locks and switches and all the other gadgets expected today, through the same wire. So no need for a specific wire to be routed between, say, a particular switch and the motor in a back door. The signal from the switch module is coded and travels through the ring main and is recognised by the actuator in the relevant door, as an example.

The way that some fools reckon it has up to 85 computers is to count every sending and every receiving module on every component as a 'computer'. Well technically I suppose it is a processing unit but not one that makes complex computations. If you count these as 'computers, then you should also call your cordless phone, your TV remote control, anything that communicates with anything else whether wired or wirelessly, 'computers'. Even a desktop computer's external hard drive or speakers or DVD drive would be classed as 'computers' in their own right. In this day and age that is patently ridiculous.

Modern cars do actually have that many computers. And no, they don't count sending and receiving module as a computer, where is that even coming from? Just because the microprocessors aren't the size of a laptop doesn't not make them computers or capable of complex computations.

 

[ricky_rascal]

I guess you’re right. When I can have a brand new Ranger Wildtrack for £21.5k by the time the super deduction has been used, I can’t see that being beaten. Different horses for different courses I suppose.

Can I ask what the Super Deduction is?

Bit of an update. There is no discount on Defender, nothing. Tried NFU, Anglia, Military. None of them can get discount.

Discovery is another story, there's some very good deals about to the extent the D300 Discovery is £14,000 cheaper than the same spec Defender and £4000 cheaper than basic basic spec Defender. Just a shame its a bit ugly.

I don’t suppose there will be much in the way of discounts. Fairly new to the market and a wait to take delivery I’m led to believe. They can sell them without discounting currently.

 

[Lincsman]

Bit of an update. There is no discount on Defender, nothing. Tried NFU, Anglia, Military. None of them can get discount.

Discovery is another story, there's some very good deals about to the extent the D300 Discovery is £14,000 cheaper than the same spec Defender and £4000 cheaper than basic basic spec Defender. Just a shame its a bit ugly.

They never discount new models of anything until the supply of customers who have lots of cash and want the latest thing dries up.

 

[mf7480]

Can I ask what the Super Deduction is?



I don’t suppose there will be much in the way of discounts. Fairly new to the market and a wait to take delivery I’m led to believe. They can sell them without discounting currently.

Super-deduction

A new 130% first-year capital allowance for qualifying plant and machinery assets; and a 50% first-year allowance for qualifying special rate assets.

www.gov.uk

 

[mf7480]

They never discount new models of anything until the supply of customers who have lots of cash and want the latest thing dries up.

This is true. The dealership was busy, 3 or 4 people waiting to see salesman, all the ones I saw were after Defender. I saw one pricing up the spec on his new one, got to the end and said great I’ll have it. Why would they discount them when there’s a que of people willing to give full retail for them. I’ve been told it’s only since they’ve fitted the 3.0 6 cylinder engines sales have really taken off. There’s plenty of stock about of the ‘old’ 4 cylinders that aren’t shifting that well. But no commercials.

 

[ricky_rascal]

Super-deduction

A new 130% first-year capital allowance for qualifying plant and machinery assets; and a 50% first-year allowance for qualifying special rate assets.

www.gov.uk

Ah right

 

[ricky_rascal]

This is true. The dealership was busy, 3 or 4 people waiting to see salesman, all the ones I saw were after Defender. I saw one pricing up the spec on his new one, got to the end and said great I’ll have it. Why would they discount them when there’s a que of people willing to give full retail for them. I’ve been told it’s only since they’ve fitted the 3.0 6 cylinder engines sales have really taken off. There’s plenty of stock about of the ‘old’ 4 cylinders that aren’t shifting that well. But no commercials.

Which just goes to show there is still a demand for bigger engines and a few more cylinders. I demo’d a new Isuzu dmax recently. Only really because I get on well with the dealer as don’t think I’d have gone out of my way. It was ok but the little engine is a real let down. Why oh why oh why?? I could go with a commercial 4X4 ‘van’ and did entertain the idea of a second hand Discovery van. Previous to Isuzu pickup had a SWB Mitsu Shogun. It was sound but a little short on space. A new Defender commercial would be well out of my price range.

 

[hally]

Which just goes to show there is still a demand for bigger engines and a few more cylinders. I demo’d a new Isuzu dmax recently. Only really because I get on well with the dealer as don’t think I’d have gone out of my way. It was ok but the little engine is a real let down. Why oh why oh why?? I could go with a commercial 4X4 ‘van’ and did entertain the idea of a second hand Discovery van. Previous to Isuzu pickup had a SWB Mitsu Shogun. It was sound but a little short on space. A new Defender commercial would be well out of my price range.

Then problem is the disco 4 commercial is getting a bit long in the tooth now, at least 5 year old and commercials tend to be run to higher mileages.

 

[Cowabunga]

Modern cars do actually have that many computers. And no, they don't count sending and receiving module as a computer, where is that even coming from? Just because the microprocessors aren't the size of a laptop doesn't not make them computers or capable of complex computations.

As I said previously there are microprocessors in almost anything today. Its inclusion does not class it as a computer as most people understand it as being a major control unit processing data and controlling a variety of different functions. Yes they do count bus modules as computers to get those silly numbers because they have inbuilt microprocessors.
Heck, even USB chargers for phones have microprocessors inside them to interpret the many signals passing through, which control various parameters but nobody normally calls them computers. If you do class such things as computers than of course most new cars get up to absurd numbers as microprocessors are found all over the place in them mostly doing relatively simple tasks, themselves controlled by what is normally known as a computer, the ECU's of this world

 

[TripleSix]

 

[feilding]

Saw a defender on road last week. Only the second I've ever seen, 3 door model 21 plate. What a pig ugly thing it is. Worse than pictures/videos . Just my opinion,might look better in the dark.

 

[Pringles]

I wonder if the person you saw driving the Defender thought "what a pig ugly thing that is" about what you were driving!!

 

[hally]

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Looks the part

 

[ricky_rascal]

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Saw that on Twitter. Think someone said it was backed up to the pig docks? Thought pig job wasn’t so good

Then problem is the disco 4 commercial is getting a bit long in the tooth now, at least 5 year old and commercials tend to be run to higher mileages.

It was three years ago when my dmax was in dock. Looked at a tidy one in black with about 60k on. Don’t think there was much warranty and land rover do have a bit of a bad rep for reliability. Didn’t bother and ended up buying another 2.5 dmax. Couldn’t get a new Ranger at the time. I don’t do big miles and not up and down country so the 60k on the Disco didn’t worry me too much. New Disco Vans look a bit ‘townie’ though I’m sure they will be a more pleasant place to sit than my d-max!

 

[hally]

Saw that on Twitter. Think someone said it was backed up to the pig docks? Thought pig job wasn’t so good




It was three years ago when my dmax was in dock. Looked at a tidy one in black with about 60k on. Don’t think there was much warranty and land rover do have a bit of a bad rep for reliability. Didn’t bother and ended up buying another 2.5 dmax. Couldn’t get a new Ranger at the time. I don’t do big miles and not up and down country so the 60k on the Disco didn’t worry me too much. New Disco Vans look a bit ‘townie’ though I’m sure they will be a more pleasant place to sit than my d-max!

I have a dmax and a d5 discovery and they are light years apart, we have a mile long rough track down into the farm and the dmax rattles and bangs it’s way in whereas the disco glides in silently. However the disco is a complex bit of kit not sure suitable for farming work but who knows.