New entrance

[Directdebit]

Hi,
Would I need planning permission to make a new opening out onto a main road? Guy seems to think I don’t! Waiting to hear back from planning for an answer.

 

[Bald Rick]

You will certainly need your LA Highways approval

And before anyone says JFDI, it does appear that councils are waking up to planning abuses and like nothing better than giving you a good fingering.
Nowadays, I am mortally afraid of Hi Vis and lanyards

 

[Bald Rick]

Oh and by the way, it is FAR more than just approval - esp on to a main road.

You will need to provide evidence of sight lines and methodology of how you intend to join to their tarmac including materials, depth of excavation etc.

It COULD cost £000s ............. I have been fingered

 

[Bald Rick]

 

[serf]

JFDI

 

[neilo]

Does it not depend if you are reopening the old, overgrown gateway, as evidenced by that old gate in the bottom of the hedge?

A 'new' gateway is likely to be a can of worms, and get you fingered.

 

[Bald Rick]

JFDI

 

[Bald Rick]

Does it not depend if you are reopening the old, overgrown gateway, as evidenced by that old gate in the bottom of the hedge?

A 'new' gateway is likely to be a can of worms, and get you fingered.

Not any more. Times have moved on bigly. You would get away with it on to a lane but only by abasing yourself in front of the planner/Highways authority. On to a main road is a whole new kettle of fish due to closing speeds etc AND as I have said, they are exceptionally keen on wanting to know how you intend to join their tarmac (plus you may not own the grass strip that borders your boundary to the highway.)

The OP is correct to engage with the planners but should be prepared to pay &/or wait for weeks for an answer.
On the other hand, he may be told to JFDI ...... we live in covid times

 

[steveR]

Not any more. Times have moved on bigly. You would get away with it on to a lane but only by abasing yourself in front of the planner/Highways authority. On to a main road is a whole new kettle of fish due to closing speeds etc AND as I have said, they are exceptionally keen on wanting to know how you intend to join their tarmac (plus you may not own the grass strip that borders your boundary to the highway.)

The OP is correct to engage with the planners but should be prepared to pay &/or wait for weeks for an answer.
On the other hand, he may be told to JFDI ...... we live in covid times

As long as the approval from the HA is in writing...

 

[Directdebit]

Thanks for the reply’s,it’s a developer that is building houses and want to give us a temporary road for access until road is sorted,would be through my field and told me I wouldn’t need planning!! Fine him saying that when it on my bit!

 

[chaffcutter]

If it’s over the builders land then it’s up to him to get the permission or not as he chooses, but if it’s yours the highway authority may want an entrance designed and executed by a professional firm, we had to do one on an existing lane when we got permission. We had to pay the designing engineers, then put a deposit equal to the quoted cost with the County Council, until it was complete and they signed it off as ok, they then held a £5k bond for five years against it requiring any repairs. (only just got that back)!
This was onto a c class road through the village with perfect sight lines and a 30 limit. So be prepared for a big bill to get out onto a main road.

 

[Pebd99]

Localish quarry was making a start to a sand pile on a neighbours land. They had the topsoil off and starting to make the road to the main road when the council found out and stopped play. That’s years ago and it’s a pile worth doing as well. Would not grant permission for a new entrance.

 

[Kevtherev]

Planning needed plus permission to dig by the highway by an approved contractor.

 

[Steevo]

Anyone done it? I’d love to know the cost. Seen one done locally onto A road.

Planning alone would be quite a chunk.
Then highways hassle and money.

Works themselves probably only 50% of the actual cost of doing it.

 

[chaffcutter]

as above, to create a 6m wide access cost us about £30k iirc but this was back in about 2012

We even had to incorporate the bubbly concrete panels each side in the footpaths to signal a crossing for the blind. As far as I know there aren’t any more of those for miles!

 

[e3120]

as above, to create a 6m wide access cost us about £30k iirc but this was back in about 2012

We even had to incorporate the bubbly concrete panels each side in the footpaths to signal a crossing for the blind. As far as I know there aren’t any more of those for miles!

I hope you don't mind a little schadenfreude, as those of us without roadside footpaths have reduced opportunities for lucrative industrial lets.

 

[chaffcutter]

That entrance wasn’t for the new farmyard, completely seperate job

The new entrance to the yard was a piece of cake, the county highways came and chose its position!

 

[Clive]

New farmyard entrance had to have traffic speed surveys done and professional road engineers design submitted to county highway’s

it is not cheap or easy to get and was only onto a very minor road, our first (cheaper shorter drive). was rejected on basis of visibility even though it was an existing field gateway

ironically that minor road got a lot busier after the m6 toll road was built and our entrance provides the only passing place so we did highways and local road users a big favour building it

 

[Derky]

25-30 k. You need planning. Then traffic survey and CDM values of the soil. Then submit an application to highways. Wait about a year while they come back and ask for lots more things. Then apply for road space and have an approved contractor do it. We have spent thousands to get us approved for streetworks.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Jobs worth will be [emoji122]
Has anyone mention the Bat Survey