New Gatepost signs from NFU

Girlfarmer

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
I'm not too sure about this sign really. To me it is suggesting a dog doesn't need to be on a lead in livestock areas, both by what it says and what it shows in the picture. There is ambiguity there and I could imagine some people using this to argue back when a clear message of dog on lead leaves no room for debate.
 

llamedos

New Member
I'm not too sure about this sign really. To me it is suggesting a dog doesn't need to be on a lead in livestock areas, both by what it says and what it shows in the picture. There is ambiguity there and I could imagine some people using this to argue back when a clear message of dog on lead leaves no room for debate.

It dosn't.
Just as stated under close control.
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I'm not too sure about this sign really. To me it is suggesting a dog doesn't need to be on a lead in livestock areas, both by what it says and what it shows in the picture. There is ambiguity there and I could imagine some people using this to argue back when a clear message of dog on lead leaves no room for debate.
you could always get a black marker pen and draw lead on ;)
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
As land owners could you put a sign up saying all dogs must be on a lead,after all dog owners can not guarantee their dog does not stray of the definitive line of the footpath so it is on the landowners property so surely they can insist on this ?
 

llamedos

New Member
As land owners could you put a sign up saying all dogs must be on a lead,after all dog owners can not guarantee their dog does not stray of the definitive line of the footpath so it is on the landowners property so surely they can insist on this ?

No.
Not unless you have created a permissive path and have stated they must be on a lead as part of the permission.

If the land is Open Access you are allowed to close this for access to dogs for up to 6 weeks once a year for lambing, and from 1 march to 31st july dogs have to be on a lead of no more than 2 mtrs.
Grouse moors can exclude dogs for up to 5 yrs at a time! except on public ROW.

Coastal land has different permissions.
You can also have 28 day restrictions, but not sure on these.
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
No.
Not unless you have created a permissive path and have stated they must be on a lead as part of the permission.

If the land is Open Access you are allowed to close this for access to dogs for up to 6 weeks once a year for lambing, and from 1 march to 31st july dogs have to be on a lead of no more than 2 mtrs.
Grouse moors can exclude dogs for up to 5 yrs at a time! except on public ROW.

Coastal land has different permissions.
You can also have 28 day restrictions, but not sure on these.
Just a thought,
 

wr.

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Breconshire
you could always get a black marker pen and draw lead on ;)

:whistle:

dog sign.PNG
 

phillipe

Member
I had a bull out yesterday he was quite happily wandering down a footpath to the next village. He was in 1of the few fields I have surrounded by hedge so he would have been very secure. He is a small Angus so it didn't take much of a hole for him to get through. When we were looking to see how he got out we found a hole somebody has cut in the hedge. I can see where the blackthorn has been cut, they have also cut a hole further down in my neighbours field to make a private footpath. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I need a few hundred of these signs.

Bg
Put something quit nasty in said holes
 
Good idea(y) I waymark and spray out to a ridiculous level, but feel it pays dividends in marshalling the wanderers.

Just diverted a fp here, took 2 yrs.

My rule of thumb is always be able to see the next gate/crossing from the last if in line of site. 8ft white posts going up with lots of markers. Don't feel guilty being the typical farmer and giving them an earful if they get lost then
 

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