New Holland T6.175 autocommand vs Fendt 516

[hally]

I’ve been to Massey factory and fendts and valtra are produced on same line there as masseys!
Scoff all you like but I’ve seen them on the line

Chill.....it was only a joke

 

[daveydiesel1]

we've had newholland for over 20 years lots of differant models but the new 210 we have now is testing me to my limit. dealer very good the tractors the problem

Customer of ours has a 210 and its a nightmare. Spent thousands fixin it. Itl be goin for a jd shortly if he hasnt already got it changed

 

[daveydiesel1]

Had CNH tractors here for years, never been into a gearbox Or a 4wd bearing, only ever done the brakes on One 8000 plus hr tractor And that was as planned maintence and they weren’t worn out, And when was the last time you read a thread on here about a FPT engine or auto command/cvx gearbox going bang?

Fair enough. Some ppl get good service outa them but round here quite a few of the contractors that would be doin high hours doin hard graft has moved from nh to jd and no notion of goin back

 

[daveydiesel1]

They might be better but they give bother too and won't do jobs any better than the next brand or earn you any more money, so if farmings so bad and no money in it why would you spend the extra on a fendt? Plus why not buy the one that is assembled in the UK supporting UK jobs? After all farmers want the public to support them and buy their produce.

We do need them to buy our produce but lets face it most consumers dont care where stuf is produced/made so why should i. The reason most factorys moved away from britian is cause of workers rights and pay demands and government red tape not because we didnt buy ther products.

 

[Galcam]

I do wonder about people giving very strong opinions on machines they have not bought from new and have not been taught or trained on how to use them. The complexity of a modern tractor today requires time to set it up to your liking. Down to even setup the seat and lighting never mind engine and transmission.

 

[Down farmer]

Can get a bad specimen in any (or a brilliant one) make know of a Fendt where the gearbox was fixed 3 times and PTO clutch once under warranty owner sold it on and the engine blew up shortly afterwards

 

[hally]

Can get a bad specimen in any (or a brilliant one) make know of a Fendt where the gearbox was fixed 3 times and PTO clutch once under warranty owner sold it on and the engine blew up shortly afterwards

Only know the history of 4 local fendts, we have had 2 first bad one second better, neighbour had one new turbos etc but on the whole good, friend on his second first one new engine and vario. However fendt are very good at sorting out problems so good tractors but not perfect.

 

[Farma Parma]

I’ve been to Massey factory and fendts and valtra are produced on same line there as masseys!
Scoff all you like but I’ve seen them on the line

was only the larger S series made in Beauvais that iam aware of unless thats changed.
The French wont be told tho & have a bee in there bonnet about lots of things.

 

[seedman stains]

Thats the french way of thinking and it goes from the bottom to the top, then back down again each blaming each other then nothing changes much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT do many of these big maufacturers listen to the end user.

 

[daveydiesel1]

U may just go and try a kubota. Mighty tractor

 

[Speedstar]

I’ve been to Massey factory and fendts and valtra are produced on same line there as masseys!
Scoff all you like but I’ve seen them on the line

No they are not every now and again their make a valtra or two but not fendt

 

[Hampton]

No they are not every now and again their make a valtra or two but not fendt

I saw them on the line. We weren’t allowed to take photos for obvious reasons.
Could have been a green Massey I suppose

 

[ollie989898]

Think you'll find the fpt engine in the New Holland is the better engine. Are they not the most efficient tractor ever tested by the dlg? No reliability issues either with the fpt engine.

Sorry but I am far from convinced about the engine in New Hollands.

 

[ollie989898]

Can get a bad specimen in any (or a brilliant one) make know of a Fendt where the gearbox was fixed 3 times and PTO clutch once under warranty owner sold it on and the engine blew up shortly afterwards

Mind I bet some Fendts are driven by complete goons who don't know how to drive them. Modern gearboxes and varios etc are undoubtedly going to be abused if people don't know how to operate them.

I will never understand the T6000 series, all the examples I have driven were a sack of merde.

 

[Speedstar]

Mind I bet some Fendts are driven by complete goons who don't know how to drive them. Modern gearboxes and varios etc are undoubtedly going to be abused if people don't know how to operate them.

I will never understand the T6000 series, all the examples I have driven were a sack of merde.

Put a Fendt in pedal mode & any one can drive it

 

[ollie989898]

Put a Fendt in pedal mode & any one can drive it

Yes but you know what people are like, caning kit, using the 2nd gear for heavy draft loads, sudden direction changes, on/off brakes and throttle. There are some morons out there.

 

[Speedstar]

Yes but you know what people are like, caning kit, using the 2nd gear for heavy draft loads, sudden direction changes, on/off brakes and throttle. There are some morons out there.

It is simple 1st gear in the field 2nd on the road & stop to change gear

 

[Mouser]

It is simple 1st gear in the field 2nd on the road & stop to change gear

And if you don't, vario problems, which is the point he is making. Its not simple to make a moron do that. Would be easier if the tractor didn't allow gear to be changed while moving but still no way to ensure they go into 1st for field work.

 

[fiatf130]

Sorry but I am far from convinced about the engine in New Hollands.

Like drillman said how many topics on here do you see about reliability issues on an fpt engine? I don't recall any. Compare that with duetz engine issues in fendts and John deeres head gasket issues and variable turbo issues. The fpt engines are the best out there. Even Deere used them in a certain model at one time!

 

[Fish]

Like drillman said how many topics on here do you see about reliability issues on an fpt engine? I don't recall any. Compare that with duetz engine issues in fendts and John deeres head gasket issues and variable turbo issues. The fpt engines are the best out there. Even Deere used them in a certain model at one time!

Well, apart from a few add blue problems,

been there, done that, got the bill.