New ley

[The Ruminant]

if we plant a new grass / clover ley straight after harvest in mid-August and fertilise it well, would it be well enough established by the following spring to be grazed by yearling cattle?

 

[Chae1]

if we plant a new grass / clover ley straight after harvest in mid-August and fertilise it well, would it be well enough established by the following spring to be grazed by yearling cattle?

Yes. We put some in after spring barley same time last year and got a good catch of grass.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Be better off getting an early cut off it first then turning the cattle in

 

[HarryB97]

Yes but I wouldn't put any N on it after harvest unless there's very little clover in it and it is mainly a ryegrass ley that you want to cut that autumn. No point having poor root growth and lots of leaf to go manky over the winter. With the vigour of it I'd take a cut or two of silage off all or most of it next spring.

 

[Chae1]

I put on 190kg/ha 16.16.16. Should have grazed it with sheep to encourage it to tiller in winter.

Cut it for silage in early June.

 

[Bury the Trash]

yeah as said above very little n else the clover wont get chance to establish bein as it will be smothered at birth...

I always was told can stock it 6wks but only obvs if it grows and establishes with a shower or 2 from the outset … and with sheep 'el golden hoofo' and if not then, then put them on it later in autumn or winter if the weather isn't too frosty or wet poachy…blah blah blah....


No cutting

then put yer cattle on in late spring when good ground conditions obvs. ( only thing is they might sh!t through the eye of a needle I spec...

 

[Will Blackburn]

Much better to DD to help it carry cattle better.

 

[The Ruminant]

Much better to DD to help it carry cattle better.

Yes, that is the plan. I’ve made the mistake of putting cattle onto new leys established with the plough and it was not good!

 

[The Ruminant]

How much sheep grazing in the autumn / winter? Just a quick skim over or a longer spell? Stocking rate?
@Bury the Trash @Chae1

 

[Great In Grass]

Start grazing once the new seedlings can not be "plucked" out of the ground 6-8 weeks after sowing. Graze often in short periods after the plant has reached the 2 leaf stage and keep try not to let growth go beyond 4".

 

[Bury the Trash]

Start grazing once the new seedlings can not be "plucked" out of the ground 6-8 weeks after sowing

I do hope he has got rid of the rabbits

How much sheep grazing in the autumn / winter? Just a quick skim over or a longer spell? Stocking rate?
@Bury the Trash @Chae1

depends how well it establishes, but go over it once in autumn mild and not too wet winter like last year and you can grass it tight enough to even graze out some weed if its therelater
march and up late april with sheep, I took out some fairly heavy charlock this spring like that. when its established they can eat it down just want them to poach obviously same with the cattle. hen they go in , make sure you have somewhere to move to withouttoo much hasstle , using common sense nearer the time will be fine.
just depends on the weather at the time . like everything we do does.

 

[multi power]

Be better off getting an early cut off it first then turning the cattle in

Definitely not

 

[The Ruminant]

I do hope he has got rid of the rabbits

Ha ha! Well remembered but different parcel of land!

depends how well it establishes, mild and not too wet winter like last year and you can grass it tight enough to even graze out some weed if its there in late april with sheep, I took out some fairly heavy charlock this spring like that. when its established they can eat it down just want them to poach obviously same with the cattle. hen they go in , make sure you have somewhere to move to withouttoo much hasstle , using common sense nearer the time will be fine.

Thank you

 

[multi power]

if we plant a new grass / clover ley straight after harvest in mid-August and fertilise it well, would it be well enough established by the following spring to be grazed by yearling cattle?

Yes definitely, no problems at all
Don't forget to graze it with some of them white things early winter

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Definitely not

Definitely yes

 

[multi power]

Definitely yes

Mowing isn't going to make it tiller much, is it ?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Mowing isn't going to make it tiller much, is it ?

No it wants sheep on...the op hasn’t mentioned sheep though only yearling cattle

 

[multi power]

No it wants sheep on...the op hasn’t mentioned sheep though only yearling cattle

I said graze with sheep already

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I said graze with sheep already

And if he hasn’t got any?

 

[multi power]

And if he hasn’t got any?

I'd imagine he might know someone who has