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[Philip Watkins]

It doesn't have to be sunny , it's the UV in the atmosphere they're reacting to , I suspect. .

Absolutely. Mum got bad sunburn one summer, warm day really overcast and never saw the sun all day.

 

[Henarar]

Whats his breeding?
Stock bull or AI?

Here he is run through the mating predictor
https://abri.une.edu.au/online/cgi-...827262F2221&12=383B313C065331380E5F070E000511

 

[M-J-G]

Here he is run through the mating predictor
https://abri.une.edu.au/online/cgi-...827262F2221&12=383B313C065331380E5F070E000511

Is he an embryo calf?

 

[M-J-G]

Sorry, forget that. I see on down the page that you own the dam.

 

[Henarar]

We bought the cow as a calf with a cow and the bull is an AI bull

 

[Henarar]

Had this little girl fall out a few days ago, we didn't know she was calving lucky everything was ok

 

[Henarar]

for those that like figures @Blod here is the calf
https://abri.une.edu.au/online/cgi-...B5F595A592627252F24&12=3C36353D480204020F0731

 

[AGN76]

I don't know much about Blue breeding but I'm using Ukulele and a Bonne Raie son at the moment on the Lims so I'm glad to hear the calf fell out!

 

[Henarar]

I don't know much about Blue breeding but I'm using Ukulele and a Bonne Raie son at the moment on the Lims so I'm glad to hear the calf fell out!

We have only calved a few to Issac so far but they have been fine, early days so touch wood
Issac was born with little assistance

 

[farmerclare]

Heifer calf born last night. Dam is Launcherley Friend O Mine and Sire is Ding Valley Farmersboy, our senior stock bull.

 

[GenuineRisk]

All three naturally calved - just sayin'......!!!!

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Appreciate what @bovine is saying re colour etc, but you supply your market. If you or your jnr vets turned up not in ties and your customer insisted on wearing them, it would not alter your service but you would wear them, same in the corporate world its all the same just on a different level. Costs the same to keep any equal sized cow, commission the same, way to make money IMO is increase the value of product. If prepared to work and moniter your calving cows your losses should be no more yet an increased value product. Lowest ebv calving bulls, 200 knocked off minimum as an average as 14 m.o. beast

 

[Henarar]

Lowest ebv calving bulls, 200 knocked off minimum as an average as 14 m.o. beast

Are you saying that Calves from a bull with very low calving EBVs will make £200 less than calves from a bull with very high calving EBVs ?
@Lovegoodstock

 

[Spartacus]

Are you saying that Calves from a bull with very low calving EBVs will make £200 less than calves from a bull with very high calving EBVs ?
@Lovegoodstock

I think he's saying they wont grow out as big?

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Sure many bulls, and great if you get them, can have very low birth weights and low muscling and develop as good, but I think, or at least in my experience when I tried a couple, a calf with a fair degree of muscling at birth, and im not talking two foot wide, and a fair bit of size will end up a more valuable animal. If say you took 100 of each sort and valued at a year, would think large majority that started ahead will end up ahead

 

[johnspeehs]

So what colour of calves are you looking for with a white bb bull on Ho/fr cows??. I buy a batch of bb x fr hfr calves every year and prefer the darker coloured ones as do most folk around here, surely you don't get those with a white bull?

 

[GenuineRisk]

Different regions seem to want different coloured calves - down here in the SW the markets want blue and white calves - I think black and white Bluex heifers have in the past been passed off as pure Friesian or Holstein heifer calves but in the North, they prefer the darker colour. White bulls usually get blue and white calves.

 

[Henarar]

Sure many bulls, and great if you get them, can have very low birth weights and low muscling and develop as good, but I think, or at least in my experience when I tried a couple, a calf with a fair degree of muscling at birth, and im not talking two foot wide, and a fair bit of size will end up a more valuable animal. If say you took 100 of each sort and valued at a year, would think large majority that started ahead will end up ahead

If you are going to go by the figures you want to look at the growth rate as well

 

[Henarar]

I have found that the biggest calves when they are born will not make the most money at sale time this also goes for the most heavily muscled ones

 

[Henarar]

We had a calf born last year 69kg happened to be out of a cow my sister likes she said that will be a market topper I said nothing but thought it wouldn't ten months later this calf sold well but another one we took topped the market