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New Zealand - Land of milk and honey? Holwellcourtfarm's tour 2017

JD-Kid

Member
Cannibalism....:eek:

I’ve noticed @Kiwi Pete likes harvesting food from natural local resources........:nailbiting:
yep very common it was not realy a food Idea some cases a sign of disrespect to. eat others would stop there souls traveling in to the other world
not far from here. the locals had. quite a few. BBQ on the beach will people that called in one case. another tribe from the north island stopped off for a meal with the locals
kids gifted to the gods happened to in a few areas
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
@holwellcourtfarm ,there’s plenty of great places to live in the UK,the Welsh borders areas are fantastic virtually all the way from South to North.

Just quiet enough however not too far from civilisation.

I believe places like Northumberland have very high satisfaction ratings.

I rate the place we live highly as we are just far enough from the beaten track but close to everything,our little civilised enclave.......a lot of the rest of the country is a sh!t hole but you don’t have to go there.

I'd agree with that. I grew up in the countryside (kind of) and loved it but as a farm worker, would probably only have been able to afford a sh*t house in a sh*t town so I left.
If I'd had the money to buy a small farm complete with house somewhere quiet, i wouldn't have left (at least not for long) I wouldn't leave here now because of the kids but for some reason if i had the chance of a small farm here or a small farm in the UK (providing it wasn't near a city) I'd still chose the UK.
Don't really know why:scratchhead:
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Cannibalism....:eek:

I’ve noticed @Kiwi Pete likes harvesting food from natural local resources........:nailbiting:
As it so happens, Cannibal Bay is only 10-15 minutes drive from here; there's a whole lot of history about NZ that you literally have to dig up yourself if you want to know.

The version of history we were taught at school was almost fairytale stuff by comparison to reality, reality that really needs to be taught or NZ society will struggle to build on half a foundation - you see the effects of this all the time if you look
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
As it so happens, Cannibal Bay is only 10-15 minutes drive from here; there's a whole lot of history about NZ that you literally have to dig up yourself if you want to know.

The version of history we were taught at school was almost fairytale stuff by comparison to reality, reality that really needs to be taught or NZ society will struggle to build on half a foundation - you see the effects of this all the time if you look
Could make a meat pie business out of it.:meh:

 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yeah the Maori ate the Moriori
That's what I mean when I say "nobody is any better or any worse than anyone else"

It's the way of the world - there's always someone hungrier than you are, so you need to know how to fight; or, prepare to have it taken from you.
NZ has a history of predators getting all the the spoils; 'do they need to be further glorified in the history books' or is a balanced account more useful to the nation?

There's little benefit in the pretence that the white man "saved New Zealand" from anything, for the Maori were more than capable of the widespread plundering of natural resource; it wasn't in their culture to do so, a conservation-minded people should always be respected.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
I'd agree with that. I grew up in the countryside (kind of) and loved it but as a farm worker, would probably only have been able to afford a sh*t house in a sh*t town so I left.
If I'd had the money to buy a small farm complete with house somewhere quiet, i wouldn't have left (at least not for long) I wouldn't leave here now because of the kids but for some reason if i had the chance of a small farm here or a small farm in the UK (providing it wasn't near a city) I'd still chose the UK.
Don't really know why:scratchhead:
Not much chance of a small farm anywhere
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
I'd agree with that. I grew up in the countryside (kind of) and loved it but as a farm worker, would probably only have been able to afford a sh*t house in a sh*t town so I left.
If I'd had the money to buy a small farm complete with house somewhere quiet, i wouldn't have left (at least not for long) I wouldn't leave here now because of the kids but for some reason if i had the chance of a small farm here or a small farm in the UK (providing it wasn't near a city) I'd still chose the UK.
Don't really know why:scratchhead:
Interesting that you would choose the UK. I have lived and farmed in both countries and still go back to the UK to catch up with family and friends, every time I go back I am grateful that we moved to NZ. It does not suit everyone but certainly suits me.
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
The fluent English bit is the funniest requirement :scratchhead: how many Kiwis actually speak that .. ?

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Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
On a serious note - @holwellcourtfarm i am completely gutted for you & Mel. I can only begin to imagine what a kick in the guts this must be for you both, you seemed SO ready to leave the UK
Once you’ve had time to take stock & recoup, I hope you don’t give up on your dreams & do find other options that may be as appealing as NZ. I could suggest Tassie, or a number of other similar locations , but it’s been a long time since I’ve looked into our immigration requirements I will admit. There was a youngish English couple who bought a farm here a few years ago ( they have since gone back to the UK for family reasons, despite having two Australian born children ), they only employed 1 person & weren’t a particularly large ( fairly average for here ) operation . . .
Anyway, you are probably sick of people commenting, giving advice or telling you what to do. All I can say is how sorry I am that this hasn’t worked out for you . . .
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
On a serious note - @holwellcourtfarm i am completely gutted for you & Mel. I can only begin to imagine what a kick in the guts this must be for you both, you seemed SO ready to leave the UK
Once you’ve had time to take stock & recoup, I hope you don’t give up on your dreams & do find other options that may be as appealing as NZ. I could suggest Tassie, or a number of other similar locations , but it’s been a long time since I’ve looked into our immigration requirements I will admit. There was a youngish English couple who bought a farm here a few years ago ( they have since gone back to the UK for family reasons, despite having two Australian born children ), they only employed 1 person & weren’t a particularly large ( fairly average for here ) operation . . .
Anyway, you are probably sick of people commenting, giving advice or telling you what to do. All I can say is how sorry I am that this hasn’t worked out for you . . .
Thanks Roy, speaks volumes about the person you are that you have the capacity to sympathise with our little issues in your own predicament. Humanity at its best mate. (y)
 

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Webinar: Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer 2024 -26th Sept

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On Thursday 26th September, we’re holding a webinar for farmers to go through the guidance, actions and detail for the expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer. This was planned for end of May, but had to be delayed due to the general election. We apologise about that.

Farming and Countryside Programme Director, Janet Hughes will be joined by policy leads working on SFI, and colleagues from the Rural Payment Agency and Catchment Sensitive Farming.

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