No combines out yet.

[Two Tone]

*adam.

yes I think it will be fine especially if drilled early in good conditions.

Beg your pardon Adam.
Thanks.

Now edited.

 

[ajd132]

Beg your pardon Adam. Thanks.

In reference to the pre em thing. I think niab are saying that in these situation efficacy is reduced, but the other stuff such as no disturbance and mulches brings it back to the same or above the efficacy of it was a lovely seedbed.

 

[SilliamWhale]

The Winter Barley field I was combining yesterday was conventionally drilled Bazooka
This is what it was yielding
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Today we were in a Direct drilled rather hilly field. We don’t attempt to unload on the move on this field.
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As it is dangerous to do so.

The difference between this and the last field apart from the drilling technique is that the straw was maybe 6” shorter.

But look at the yield
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And then tell me that Direct drilling yields are lower!

No till is all about having enough decent plants. If you have enough plants then it will compete with any tilled crop on yield. People who don't do no till cannot get their heads around this.

 

[CPF]

I see they are cutting winter linseed down by shipston it’s all in row and they do DD drilling chopped linseed straw will wrap around anything .
I don’t know if you know Duncan J he stripper heads all his linseed then drill’s straight into it standing Like I use to.

 

[teslacoils]

Can leave the stuff in swaths, and put it through the combine again with a pickup header to get the last bits out, and then chop the straw....

 

[Two Tone]

I see they are cutting winter linseed down by shipston it’s all in row and they do DD drilling chopped linseed straw will wrap around anything .
I don’t know if you know Duncan J he stripper heads all his linseed then drill’s straight into it standing Like I use to.

Yes, I do know Duncan J. I’ve seen him and his Combine fitted with a stripper header. It works very well until the ground is too wet so that the stripper header tugs the entire plant out of the ground, including the roots plus soil.
Then it’s not long before there is a Combine fire!
I’ve known Duncan having to get a Conventional straw walker and header Combine in to harvest in such conditions.

When conditions are good, his stripper header on his Rotary Class Lexion is very fast.
But harvesting with my conventional combine and header is also very (but not quite so) fast. You need to keep the drum full to get it to thresh properly

The secret with the Weaving GD, it that its discs will drill into extremely trashy conditions. I’m reasonably certain it would cope as @ajd132 suggests.

 

[Two Tone]

Can leave the stuff in swaths, and put it through the combine again with a pickup header to get the last bits out, and then chop the straw....

It is so fit this year, Combining just the once will be fine.

 

[CPF]

Yes, I do know Duncan J. I’ve seen him and his Combine fitted with a stripper header. It works very well until the ground is too wet so that the stripper header tugs the entire plant out of the ground, including the roots plus soil.
Then it’s not long before there is a Combine fire!
I’ve known Duncan having to get a Conventional straw walker and header Combine in to harvest in such conditions.

When conditions are good, his stripper header on his Rotary Class Lexion is very fast.
But harvesting with my conventional combine and header is also very (but not quite so) fast. You need to keep the drum full to get it to thresh properly

The secret with the Weaving GD, it that its discs will drill into extremely trashy conditions. I’m reasonably certain it would cope as @ajd132 suggests.

The reasons it pulls out of the ground is the front rotor is not going fast enough ( I use to hire out stripper heads )

 

[Two Tone]

The reasons it pulls out of the ground is the front rotor is not going fast enough ( I use to hire out stripper heads )

It’s a shame you stopped hiring out stripper headers. I’d certainly have hired one from you.

 

[ajd132]

We tried stripping winter linseed last year and it pulled out the ground. I think it was 2 weeks to late.
we did strip quite abit of spring linseed for a member on here which went fairly well.

 

[teslacoils]

It is so fit this year, Combining just the once will be fine.

Luxury. Ive only done spring and typically cart twice the volume into the shed then put it back through the combine after a few months of frosty air.

 

[CPF]

I am little bit out of touch with modern combines the last one I owned was claas lexion 480 which I sold in 2014 son-in-law does the combining now.
If you are getting a lot of unthrashed capsules in the tank all I did was to
tight up the concave,( just get the spanners out ) up to the rasp bars so they was nearly touching .

 

[quattro]

Please can I ask your advice and opinion on something Adam?

Having finished the W Barley today, my harvest helper Steve, who is me, but a 10 year older retired version and Expert on growing and harvesting Linseed, says my W Linseed is fit and we should start combining it tomorrow.
Like Rape. It can be too dry and he reckons the ideal time to start is now.

Last year we tried chopping the straw which wasn’t actually difficult, but it end up looking like a 3’ mat of cotton wool on the surface. A friend of a friend recommended that we get a straw merchant to bale it and he would sell it to a Power station, but we received no money. I was ok with that and he cleared it very quickly.
However, he doesn’t want it this year because, believe it or not, the Power stations still have a hell of a lot of last year’s straw to use and one of them is broken down anyway.

If any other straw merchants are interested such as @Derrick Hughes or @puntabrava, they can have it this year for free. I can bale it in up 5’ rounds if necessary or could get a large square bale contractor in. Obviously, the baling won’t be for free and there would be a nominal loading charge, but the straw itself would be free.

My question to you @ajd132 , @Warnesworth or anybody else is: You know we use an Angled Disc type Weaving GD drill.
Do you think I could successfully establish a Wheat crop in September into that chopped Linseed straw?
I’m fairly certain that I can get the penetration to drill the seed, but am slightly concerned about hair pinning

There may be some advantages with weed suppression under that cotton wool mat. However, there may be a disadvantages on Pre-ems not working. I’d also be interested in your thoughts on this point @ollie989898 please.

Alternatively. I could bale it, without net and burn it. But in this day and age, the thought horrifies me to waste all that unused energy into the atmosphere.

Is ther no one with a straw burning boiler who would want it

 

[teslacoils]

Could always just heap up the swaths and set it alight?

 

[robs1]

Is ther no one with a straw burning boiler who would want it

Heard that it burns too hot for them

 

[DRC]

Big fire locally this afternoon . Started in straw being stacked apparently
Windy so jumped a few fields
Very tinder dry conditions now with sun and wind

 

[MrNoo]

Next door just started in their WB, 115ac field, looks to be going well and a fair swath of straw out the back of their Lexion, not a clue about yield, was direct drilled too

 

[Bossfarmer]

It’s a 2007 and I bought it in 2015. Need a bigger one really as it’s on its limit but will have to manage for another year or two.

How much u cutting with it? Do u find it reliable?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Exactly the same here on our shales.

Shame, really - a couple of months ago yields were looking promising, prices good and financial returns exciting.

Nothing for it but have to to cancel the new combine yet again.

What do u mean by shales? Is that stonier type ground?

 

[Phil P]

How much u cutting with it? Do u find it reliable?

Too much, yes