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[Storeman]

I'm not gainsaying your experience of working with them. Far from. There are recorded instances where EVs are a pain to work on, but those obstacles are getting worked through. The Fire Brigade developed safety kits. HSE has laid out guidelines. I remember the mechanical engineers who looked after my first car wrestling with recently introduced computer software which they needed know about so as to maintain newer vehicles. The laptop wasn't cheap, and the software was considered very expensive back then. Computers in cars are second nature to them now. They've upgraded a load of other equipment, too.

Nope, wrong again.
You just don't seem to get that an EV, by it's very nature, has a battery containing huge amounts of energy, which has to be distributed by cables to the controllers and motors. It's nothing to do with software, all modern cars have software. A modern high end vehicle, like Mercedes or BMW can have up to 50 different ECUs on them. These are not the problem. The problem is the HV side. the energy in these systems is highly dangerous and working on them is a risk. Furthermore, as part of the painting process, the paint has to be baked in the spray booth/oven for several hours after it's been painted.
You cannot bake an EV in this way, the batteries do not like it and become a huge fire risk.

Please stop thinking you have an answer for everything, you don't.
With every post you make it's clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
EVs are not the holy grail and never will be.

 

[delilah]

Wat Tyler country.

 

[delilah]

 

[TJB]

 

[MF CI]

No banners, no placards, out in the countryside, is this a charity tractor run or a protest?

 

[TJB]

No banners, no placards, out in the countryside, is this a charity tractor run or a protest?

Protest at Canterbury today, approx 230 tractors
Plenty of banners up close!

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[Cowabunga]

Er, no, dear cyberchum. And I'm bearing in mind that you've taken wormer for a viral infection.

So? People take rat poison and aspirins for their blood and heart. Fact. Food packers use a well used wormer to commonly coat fresh fruit and veg for human consumption to make them last longer in storage… Thiabendazole.

You probably haven’t heard of these alternative and accepted uses. The practice is called ‘repurposing’ where a drug, chemical or product is developed for a particular purpose but found to be effective for something else entirely. Yet another example is Sildenafil, which was originally developed to treat angina and high blood pressure, but when Welsh miners who took part in a trial in Merthyr Tydfil remarked on its unexpected night-time side-effects, the drug became a multibillion dollar erectile dysfunction pill that is commonly known as Viagra.


PDE5 inhibitors work by relaxing veins and arteries, allowing blood to flow more freely. Studies in animals show that this improves blood flow in the brain, which may help protect against Alzheimer’s. Further work has shown that PDE5 inhibitors raise levels of a compound called cGMP, which may also help to protect brain cells ultimately preventing Alzheimer’s Disease.

I’m very pleased to have had the opportunity to educate you of drug repurposing. I hope that one day such a thing can help you and yours if in need.

 

[Hilly]

Er, no, dear cyberchum. And I'm bearing in mind that you've taken wormer for a viral infection.

Climate science has well over a century and a half of data to work with. Data gathered since the 1980s is increasingly detailed. Anthropogenic climate change is real.

The climate changes everyday every week every month every year , i live in hills created by ice age so im told , climate changes . Problem is we are getting conned into been told its our fault because ££££, its a natural phenomenon thats went on thousand’s years .

 

[Cowabunga]

Cooling and extra snow is now apparently caused by warming. Well it would be, wouldn’t it, because it is the latest explanation ‘they’ can dream up.

 

[Victor-IanPFC2023]

British farmers have to stand together, if we would pour one days worth of milk down the drain we would see prices increase and supermarkets realise they don't own the farmers they have under contract. Then get someone from a farm into politics so that we have someone to represent us fairly within government and then create unions across Britain that will strengthen the farming sector and return the power to the hands of those you produce everyone's food.

 

[Hilly]

British farmers have to stand together, if we would pour one days worth of milk down the drain we would see prices increase and supermarkets realise they don't own the farmers they have under contract. Then get someone from a farm into politics so that we have someone to represent us fairly within government and then create unions across Britain that will strengthen the farming sector and return the power to the hands of those you produce everyone's food.

Will never happen for many reasons. .

 

[Cowabunga]

They certainly do not want power in farmer’s hands. The whole point of agricultural policies is to wield power over farmers, not have farmers having power over anyone or anything else. In fact the proposed policies will specifically kill off a large proportion of farmers, especially but not exclusively livestock farmers, and replace us with imports which they hope will be cheap and plentiful. We are led by incompetent morons with power, just in case it hadn’t dawned on some people. Decision makers far removed from the reality of efficient management of security of food supply, energy supply, border and national security, with not a hint of doing what’s good for the UK and its population in the long term. Only in hitting irrelevant targets and feathering their own private nests.

 

[Widgetone]

Seems that the arable only English farms are generally pretty pleased with SFI and what’s on the table as some have written here?
Its English livestock and Welsh farming that has been totally screwed over.
And then Scottish Ag waiting to see what they have imposed on them.

Looks like a classic case of divide and rule doesn’t it?

 

[wanton dwarf]

Er, no, dear cyberchum. And I'm bearing in mind that you've taken wormer for a viral infection.

Climate science has well over a century and a half of data to work with. Data gathered since the 1980s is increasingly detailed. Anthropogenic climate change is real.

Looking at the "Data" it's pretty sad how it's manipulated

They've actually managed to get rid of the Dust Bowl era in the 1920s 1930s - even when most of the temperature data in that era was from the USA

They even have the gall to call temperatures "World" based when the reality is well over 90% of the data is from the USA & Northern Europe - the rest is made up

Climate Science has one big problem - Money, currently circa 1 Trillion Euros a year in Europe alone, all going to Politicians.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Seems that the arable only English farms are generally pretty pleased with SFI and what’s on the table as some have written here?
Its English livestock and Welsh farming that has been totally screwed over.
And then Scottish Ag waiting to see what they have imposed on them.

Looks like a classic case of divide and rule doesn’t it?

Doesn't fit my business, only really works for those with low quality land that don't want to work (Starts running ... )

 

[ollie989898]

So? People take rat poison and aspirins for their blood and heart. Fact. Food packers use a well used wormer to commonly coat fresh fruit and veg for human consumption to make them last longer in storage… Thiabendazole.

You probably haven’t heard of these alternative and accepted uses. The practice is called ‘repurposing’ where a drug, chemical or product is developed for a particular purpose but found to be effective for something else entirely. Yet another example is Sildenafil, which was originally developed to treat angina and high blood pressure, but when Welsh miners who took part in a trial in Merthyr Tydfil remarked on its unexpected night-time side-effects, the drug became a multibillion dollar erectile dysfunction pill that is commonly known as Viagra.


PDE5 inhibitors work by relaxing veins and arteries, allowing blood to flow more freely. Studies in animals show that this improves blood flow in the brain, which may help protect against Alzheimer’s. Further work has shown that PDE5 inhibitors raise levels of a compound called cGMP, which may also help to protect brain cells ultimately preventing Alzheimer’s Disease.

I’m very pleased to have had the opportunity to educate you of drug repurposing. I hope that one day such a thing can help you and yours if in need.

The difference with those drugs is that they actually work.

That drugs have arrived at used surreptitiously is not being argued against, what is being argued against is that they actually have the claimed function.

Also, there are far more useful drugs for treating angina and hypertension than sildenafil and neither warfarin or aspirin are really considered first line treatments these days.

 

[Burrell Road Loco]

Anywhere near your farm?

I farm in the completely opposite area, The Fens

 

[Cowabunga]

The difference with those drugs is that they actually work.

Who found out that they worked and how? You? No way. You would undoubtedly deny any efficacy until your dying breath unless it was endorsed by a pharmaceutical company first. You have not the inquisitive nature or imagination to even try alternative uses for any medicine. You do not have a scientific cell in your head. You are a robot, programmed and controlled by the pharmaceutical companies whose word you take and repeat unquestionably. Nothing would ever get done if it was up to you. Science is only advanced by the inquisitive and those that push boundaries, not by yes-men who tow the official or established line unquestionably.

Who are you to say unequivocally that something does not work when you have such a closed and narrow mind to any medical or medicinal subject as you have proven without doubt to have, combined with extreme obstinacy? A nobody, whose word is worth no more than any other internet key pusher, and I include myself.
The difference between you and I is that I make no claims one way or another about the efficacy or indeed the harm that certain medicines can do. You, on the other hand, make great claims that some medicines work and cause little or no harm while also claiming that others certainly do not work. None of which you can prove and for much of which there may be large amounts of contrary evidence emerging and available, none of which you will even consider, preferring to ignore it or disparage even very qualified people who discuss such things. That kind of attitude is the end of science. It’s the very epitome of ‘cancel culture’.

Besides which, my reply was not to you, but you just had to poke your nose in and try to appear ‘clever’. I think we have all gone past that stage of assessment.

 

[ollie989898]

Who found out that they worked and how? You? No way. You would undoubtedly deny any efficacy until your dying breath unless it was endorsed by a pharmaceutical company first. You have not the inquisitive nature or imagination to even try alternative uses for any medicine. You do not have a scientific cell in your head. You are a robot, programmed and controlled by the pharmaceutical companies whose word you take and repeat unquestionably. Nothing would ever get done if it was up to you. Science is only advanced by the inquisitive and those that push boundaries, not by yes-men who tow the official or established line unquestionably.

Who are you to say unequivocally that something does not work when you have such a closed and narrow mind to any medical or medicinal subject as you have proven without doubt to have, combined with extreme obstinacy? A nobody, whose word is worth no more than any other internet key pusher, and I include myself.
The difference between you and I is that I make no claims one way or another about the efficacy or indeed the harm that certain medicines can do. You, on the other hand, make great claims that some medicines work and cause little or no harm while also claiming that others certainly do not work. None of which you can prove and for much of which there may be large amounts of contrary evidence emerging and available, none of which you will even consider, preferring to ignore it or disparage even very qualified people who discuss such things. That kind of attitude is the end of science. It’s the very epitome of ‘cancel culture’.

Besides which, my reply was not to you, but you just had to poke your nose in and try to appear ‘clever’. I think we have all gone past that stage of assessment.

You're back to talking balderdash, again....

You make no claims but dose yourself with wormer bekus o de virus? That makes no sense, or were you hoping for some surreptitious effect?

You know even drugs with modes of action discovered by chance have to go through trials again, you know that, right? More than 1 phase in trials.

Lastly, I poked my nose in because you are talking complete BS, but that's not an isolated event for you by any means.

 

[bobthecob]

Scientists to begin spewing chalk and chemicals into the atmosphere to block sunlight?

OMG. And that’s an understatement. Reports indicate that scientists will soon begin implementing a plan, promoted by Bill Gates and George Soros, to spew chalk dust and certain chemicals into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight away from the ...

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February 26, 2024
Scientists to begin spewing chalk and chemicals into the atmosphere to block sunlight?
By Eric Utter

OMG. And that’s an understatement. Reports indicate that scientists will soon begin implementing a plan, promoted by Bill Gates and George Soros, to spew chalk dust and certain chemicals into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight away from the Earth’s surface. The creation of manmade white clouds would be an attempt to lower Earth’s temperature and reverse global warming. According to FrontPage: Scientists plan to begin pumping chemicals into the sky over the next few weeks and months from several countries around the globe, including the U.S., Australia and Israel. The idea, promoted by Gates and leftist billionaire George Soros, involves pumping manmade white clouds containing chalk dust and other chemicals into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight away from the Earth’s surface. Blocking the sun’s light would allegedly lower the planet’s temperature enough to reverse global warming.
Never mind that fruit trees and vegetables require sunlight in order to grow and produce food for the masses. Not to mention, sunlight is the primary source of critical Vitamin D, an essential nutrient for human immunity. Gates, a known eugenicist who goes around giving talks about how we need to reduce the global population, likely sees these dark possibilities as exciting side effects of the nefarious sun-blocking plan.

This extraordinary experimental action is set to occur over the next few months, with dust and chemicals being hurled into the atmosphere from various countries, including Australia, Israel, and the United States.

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