startinghandle
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I just heard on farming today after brexit landlords can stop tenants on farm business tenancies receiving subsidies
No subsidy for FBT tenants ??
- Thread starter startinghandle
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- Montgomeryshire
I somehow doubt that, but I’d be happy to go along with as long as the rent dropped by the same amount.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Subsidies stopping anyhow possibly?
No subsidies no rent possibly ither?
Tenant farmers 'may be locked out' of public goods schemes
Tenant farmers in England could end up being 'locked out' of the post-Brexit 'public money for public goods' schemes, the Tenant Farmers Association has warned.
Basically any FBT/AHA tenant where you have to get the landlords permission to enter a new environmental scheme could have their application to ELMs blocked. I know our FBT has a clause that we have to get written permission to enter any scheme that is longer than the length of our tenancy and that is pretty standard in most agreements
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
the fbts i have say that i must aply for iaccs or sfp and maintain the entitlements and some agreement mention succesor systems
most landlords give permission for stewardship
those that do not will have to farm the land with out an elms the rent will be negligable
as there will be free import of maize into the uk undercutting the feed grain price crops and livesock will have to stand on their own feet or land will be abandoned
iho most land lords will allow elms
most landlords give permission for stewardship
those that do not will have to farm the land with out an elms the rent will be negligable
as there will be free import of maize into the uk undercutting the feed grain price crops and livesock will have to stand on their own feet or land will be abandoned
iho most land lords will allow elms
Yes most probably will but that isn't what the TFA are arguing against, there will be a number of landlords who have land out on a long term agreement that they'd rather have in hand and those landlords might use the clause to stop tenants gaining access to ELMs and forcing them to surrender the tenancy
All my neighbouring AHA tenants in the estate pay less in rent than they get in BPS! They can push off if they think they are getting a rent reduction before I get one on my FBT.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Nothing new there, i was locked out of all enviro payments from 2005
Aha is a different kettle of fish compared to fbt regarding rent as you probably know already
AHA should be based on the earning capacity of the farm. FBT is what anyone’s prepared to pay unfortunately .
so if on AHA and the landlord stops you claiming ELMS the rent should drop
Yes I would say so ? Does elms actually replace the money from bps?
I’m not sure they could or would. They’ve never stopped us claiming BPS or entering enviro schemes before .
If they did, then yes, it would impact the earning potential of the farm and would have to be taken into account in any rent review
Bossfarmer
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- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
dont worry the price of machinery and fert and fuel are going to plummet once subs are gone? is that not what everyone that voted for brexit said? a bonfire of red tape and form filling also
No, and you'll have to spend more pence in the £ to get it too.
- Location
- Snodland kent
Unless I’m mistaken subsidies have and are continuing to move towards environmental schemes, how will a landlord demonstrate he’s complying without tenants assistance. Result could be no subsidy earning capacity on the land.
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