NRoSO making life more difficult

[Magnus Oyke]

I'd imagine zero (or close to zero) livestock farmers have NRoSO. If NRoSO was deemed necessary for food safety, then surely it would have been made compulsory by now?

I don't understand how having it optional is very consistent

There's nothing wrong with farmers keeping up to date with new technology and/or refreshing their memories, but I'm not sure NRoSO is fit for that purpose.

Earlier this year I got 2 points for attending a seminar about diversifying into wedding venues

If you're not doing any spraying, you're not going to need

I'd imagine zero (or close to zero) livestock farmers have NRoSO. If NRoSO was deemed necessary for food safety, then surely it would have been made compulsory by now?

I don't understand how having it optional is very consistent

There's nothing wrong with farmers keeping up to date with new technology and/or refreshing their memories, but I'm not sure NRoSO is fit for that purpose.

Earlier this year I got 2 points for attending a seminar about diversifying into wedding venues

If you're not spraying, you don't need to collect NRoSO points

 

[Magnus Oyke]

Where is this idea that NROSO prevents legislation coming from? If the govt really wants something to happen it legislates.

Legislation normally gets introduced when people are cocking about. If those of us in UK ag can demonstrate that the sprayers are in good nick, the operators are up to speed, chemical stores are good, we're not dumping stuff in water courses and spraying with gay abandon, it's quite likely the government will look elsewhere if they have time to write some new legislation. Tachographs in trucks weren't introduce because drivers were working 8 hours a day and having an hour for lunch, were they?

 

[ajd132]

Legislation normally gets introduced when people are cocking about. If those of us in UK ag can demonstrate that the sprayers are in good nick, the operators are up to speed, chemical stores are good, we're not dumping stuff in water courses and spraying with gay abandon, it's quite likely the government will look elsewhere if they have time to write some new legislation. Tachographs in trucks weren't introduce because drivers were working 8 hours a day and having an hour for lunch, were they?

They have literally just introduced compulsory inspections of chemical stores. Your argument is now invalid.

meet you didn’t learn that on a course !

 

[Magnus Oyke]

They have literally just introduced compulsory inspections of chemical stores. Your argument is now invalid.

meet you didn’t learn that on a course !

What have you got to worry about? Let them come and inspect it.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Legislation normally gets introduced when people are cocking about. If those of us in UK ag can demonstrate that the sprayers are in good nick, the operators are up to speed, chemical stores are good, we're not dumping stuff in water courses and spraying with gay abandon, it's quite likely the government will look elsewhere if they have time to write some new legislation. Tachographs in trucks weren't introduce because drivers were working 8 hours a day and having an hour for lunch, were they?

Just ridiculous assumptions. Why would we be chucking sprays in watercourses? We are all PA1 and PA2 qualified. Its part of our legal obligation.

You seem be dreaming that thanks to collecting points and eating sausage rolls we would otherwise chuck chemicals in watercourses. Its ridiculous. If I want to spray a watercourse I would do it regardless (and I don't)

 

[ajd132]

What have you got to worry about? Let them come and inspect it.

Nothing to worry about at all.
Your argument stuff like nroso stops this, that you just made about 5 minutes ago, is defunct.

 

[Grass And Grain]

If you're not doing any spraying, you're not going to need

If you're not spraying, you don't need to collect NRoSO points

Thankfully I'm not RT assured any longer, so I won't need to bother with collecting points or paying NRoSO. Two lots of protection money saved.

 

[Drillman]

What have you got to worry about? Let them come and inspect it.

The whole point of the VI and nroso was to stop further legislation on pesticide use.

Obviosuly it hasn’t worked so what’s the point of nroso? Sitting in a community hall isn’t gonna get our chemical stores inspected is it?

better to be at home to greet the relevant authority and show them the facilities as set down in law. I would like to think a proactive approach with said authorities will help improve things by picking there brains for advice.

 

[bobk]

What @Magnus Oyke doesn't understand is the mission creep of RT , what started out as a hamster has turned in to an xl bully

 

[britt]

Because the UK population, your customers, are very concerned about the food they eat and the environment, or at least say they are. It would be a good idea if the ag industry headed off and future legislation off at the pass by getting their machines tested, record keeping, and having really well trained operators before HM Government dream up legislation to make your life a misery and wishing you'd collected your NRoSO points

You didn't bother going back to read the opening post then ?
It was simply that they are making things more stressful and difficult by changing the 30 points in 3 years to 10 in 1.
Can you tell us how this change makes anything better ?
Also see post 39.

 

[Barleymow]

I'd imagine zero (or close to zero) livestock farmers have NRoSO. If NRoSO was deemed necessary for food safety, then surely it would have been made compulsory by now?

I don't understand how having it optional is very consistent

There's nothing wrong with farmers keeping up to date with new technology and/or refreshing their memories, but I'm not sure NRoSO is fit for that purpose.

Earlier this year I got 2 points for attending a seminar about diversifying into wedding venues

Got points for attending a regenerative farming meeting, they are discouraging spraying....

 

[Grass And Grain]

Got points for attending a regenerative farming meeting, they are discouraging spraying....

...also had points for a nutrient planning workshop, so nothing to do with spraying, but closer relevance than "planning a wedding venue"