SilliamWhale
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Should have bought a Claydon, you can replace all wearing parts with a lump hammer.... Add in two adjustable spanners and you could strip down and rebuild it!
He's probably got a chisel plough in the nettles!
Should have bought a Claydon, you can replace all wearing parts with a lump hammer.... Add in two adjustable spanners and you could strip down and rebuild it!
I've only gone and done it, new 750a ordered this afternoon. Cannot wait to start experimenting.
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I think @Clive had a good answer to this question a while back. Id guess its something to do with JD preferring to sell big tractors etc in the UK as theres still the demand and likely more money in it for them. 750A means smaller tractors and less of them if everyone went down that route?Why isn't John Deere pushing sales of the 750A drill? Will it sell itself or don't Deere actually want to sell a lot?
Ah good it isn't just me believing in that conspiracy theory then
Just take the plunge Martin ....you know you want to!!Seems like a useful thread to ask the question, would I be a fool to purchase a JD 1590 grain drill? From what I can gather it is a 750a box drill instead of air delivery.
Hasn't the same happened in North America? Or are we getting the impression everyone over there is no-tilling and strip till drilling and yet they don't?I think is more than conspiracy theory - it's just good business for JD
they have been here and seen all this before in South American markets, seen what happens to tractor sales and profits as a result
However they also are smart enough to know that when the tide does envevutably turn that having a well established product is worth a lot of marketing
Not quite sure how you add quotes on this, but @Niels having done a grain harvest in America id say it's all our impression and perception.
There's still a large amount of chisel plough style cultivation done in the main cereal growing area of the Midwest, be it rightly or wrongly. There's still a lot of big tractors too (and cheap £150,000 on conversion plus import costs for a quardtrac sound good?) around out there with 200 hp being the general size of yard tractor. Also most kit was minimum 8 metres plus, with only 3 of that folding .
Direct drilling and no-tilling seemed to be mainly based around forward thinking farmers in the south trying to farm themselves out of a distinct lack of water, or Northern farmers making use of widespread winter kill of grass weeds to sow into clean seedbeds post round up.
Weed resistance was a growing problem and cultivations ,sometimes up to 6 or 8 passes, were the main stay of weed control, a bit like harrowing for wicks etc. here in the 70's.
Machinery build quality was something I liked as was finishing tool design etc.
Was surprised by the large numbers of single disc John Deere drills over triple disc and also saw a few hoe type drills, but disc favoured moisture.
Straw harrows were a lot heavier built and seemed to do a good job too.
On a whole I was amazed at the lack of precision agriculture, i.e. Vari rate etc. used as they invented GPS. Seemed to be its only use was making straight lines with little overlap for the big equipment, even saw some on loaders .
On a whole made me proud at how advanced we are here in Britain and how quickly were taking on new technology, and IMHO I think we should concentrate more on designing and building reduced, direct, strip and no-till equipment aimed for our soils and climate rather than trying to use equipment designed for American climates. If anything canadian built stuff would be more of a stepping stone for us as they have far more rain and potentially wetter drilling conditions on a whole.
Just my observations and opinions
Seems like a useful thread to ask the question, would I be a fool to purchase a JD 1590 grain drill? From what I can gather it is a 750a box drill instead of air delivery.
US, small seed box fitted, obviously limited to 3m.no box drills is good. not so easy for small seeds though. USA import or EU?
Not quite sure how you add quotes on this, but @Niels having done a grain harvest in America id say it's all our impression and perception.
There's still a large amount of chisel plough style cultivation done in the main cereal growing area of the Midwest, be it rightly or wrongly. There's still a lot of big tractors too (and cheap £150,000 on conversion plus import costs for a quardtrac sound good?) around out there with 200 hp being the general size of yard tractor. Also most kit was minimum 8 metres plus, with only 3 of that folding .
Direct drilling and no-tilling seemed to be mainly based around forward thinking farmers in the south trying to farm themselves out of a distinct lack of water, or Northern farmers making use of widespread winter kill of grass weeds to sow into clean seedbeds post round up.
Weed resistance was a growing problem and cultivations ,sometimes up to 6 or 8 passes, were the main stay of weed control, a bit like harrowing for wicks etc. here in the 70's.
Machinery build quality was something I liked as was finishing tool design etc.
Was surprised by the large numbers of single disc John Deere drills over triple disc and also saw a few hoe type drills, but disc favoured moisture.
Straw harrows were a lot heavier built and seemed to do a good job too.
On a whole I was amazed at the lack of precision agriculture, i.e. Vari rate etc. used as they invented GPS. Seemed to be its only use was making straight lines with little overlap for the big equipment, even saw some on loaders .
On a whole made me proud at how advanced we are here in Britain and how quickly were taking on new technology, and IMHO I think we should concentrate more on designing and building reduced, direct, strip and no-till equipment aimed for our soils and climate rather than trying to use equipment designed for American climates. If anything canadian built stuff would be more of a stepping stone for us as they have far more rain and potentially wetter drilling conditions on a whole.
Just my observations and opinions
US, small seed box fitted, obviously limited to 3m.
Aha so there is certainly some truth in it then! Especially chisel ploughs you can find lots of of Youtube as well. Have seen plenty of cultivators yes. Pretty much the same with the UK really. If you're on here and visit the right places you might think 75% is min tilled/direct drilled yet when you drive through the countryside nearly all is ploughed still very few covers and most winter cereals also ploughed for still.Not quite sure how you add quotes on this, but @Niels having done a grain harvest in America id say it's all our impression and perception.
There's still a large amount of chisel plough style cultivation done in the main cereal growing area of the Midwest, be it rightly or wrongly. There's still a lot of big tractors too (and cheap £150,000 on conversion plus import costs for a quardtrac sound good?) around out there with 200 hp being the general size of yard tractor. Also most kit was minimum 8 metres plus, with only 3 of that folding .
Direct drilling and no-tilling seemed to be mainly based around forward thinking farmers in the south trying to farm themselves out of a distinct lack of water, or Northern farmers making use of widespread winter kill of grass weeds to sow into clean seedbeds post round up.
Weed resistance was a growing problem and cultivations ,sometimes up to 6 or 8 passes, were the main stay of weed control, a bit like harrowing for wicks etc. here in the 70's.
Machinery build quality was something I liked as was finishing tool design etc.
Was surprised by the large numbers of single disc John Deere drills over triple disc and also saw a few hoe type drills, but disc favoured moisture.
Straw harrows were a lot heavier built and seemed to do a good job too.
On a whole I was amazed at the lack of precision agriculture, i.e. Vari rate etc. used as they invented GPS. Seemed to be its only use was making straight lines with little overlap for the big equipment, even saw some on loaders .
On a whole made me proud at how advanced we are here in Britain and how quickly were taking on new technology, and IMHO I think we should concentrate more on designing and building reduced, direct, strip and no-till equipment aimed for our soils and climate rather than trying to use equipment designed for American climates. If anything canadian built stuff would be more of a stepping stone for us as they have far more rain and potentially wetter drilling conditions on a whole.
Just my observations and opinions
Not quite sure how you add quotes on this, but @Niels having done a grain harvest in America id say it's all our impression and perception.
There's still a large amount of chisel plough style cultivation done in the main cereal growing area of the Midwest, be it rightly or wrongly. There's still a lot of big tractors too (and cheap £150,000 on conversion plus import costs for a quardtrac sound good?) around out there with 200 hp being the general size of yard tractor. Also most kit was minimum 8 metres plus, with only 3 of that folding .
Direct drilling and no-tilling seemed to be mainly based around forward thinking farmers in the south trying to farm themselves out of a distinct lack of water, or Northern farmers making use of widespread winter kill of grass weeds to sow into clean seedbeds post round up.
Weed resistance was a growing problem and cultivations ,sometimes up to 6 or 8 passes, were the main stay of weed control, a bit like harrowing for wicks etc. here in the 70's.
Machinery build quality was something I liked as was finishing tool design etc.
Was surprised by the large numbers of single disc John Deere drills over triple disc and also saw a few hoe type drills, but disc favoured moisture.
Straw harrows were a lot heavier built and seemed to do a good job too.
On a whole I was amazed at the lack of precision agriculture, i.e. Vari rate etc. used as they invented GPS. Seemed to be its only use was making straight lines with little overlap for the big equipment, even saw some on loaders .
On a whole made me proud at how advanced we are here in Britain and how quickly were taking on new technology, and IMHO I think we should concentrate more on designing and building reduced, direct, strip and no-till equipment aimed for our soils and climate rather than trying to use equipment designed for American climates. If anything canadian built stuff would be more of a stepping stone for us as they have far more rain and potentially wetter drilling conditions on a whole.
Just my observations and opinions