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Old moore unidrills

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Machinery' started by hendrebc, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. hally

    hally Member

    Location:
    cumbria
    35k new but your right grant would t help its value but not bothered if it has to stay. By far the best drill we have had.
     
  2. You'd be surprised. I don't know much about anything other than the simtech but the second hand values have gone up because the new price has gone up as everything does when there is a grant available to buy them :rolleyes:
    Simtech like I had was £16.5k early January last year. Now are over £20k (£23k I think!) and the second hand ones are about the £16k mark.
     
  3. hally

    hally Member

    Location:
    cumbria
    Yeah been offered 12k for it but a new one after grant will still be 25k:eek:
     
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  4. clbarclay

    clbarclay Member

    Location:
    Worcestershire
    Only the last part in brackets. I'm sure the 1594 would be fine with the drill, I just wouldn't want to prove it by doing a days work with that tractor.

    On the subject of cost, we paid comfortably under 2 grand for a 3m unidrill that was about 15 years old and then spent over 3 grand on rebuilding it. Disc drills don't seem cheap to run like tine drills, but its not bad. I would like a 750A, but realistically we would be looking at the best part of 20 grand for a second hand 3m and then I would budget at least 5 grand for parts before using it. Cost per ha over the years though the wearing parts are not that significant.
     
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  5. DrWazzock

    DrWazzock Member

    Location:
    Lincolnshire
    Personally I'd go for a disc drill rather than a tine here as we have lots of chopped straw and trash floating about on sand. Been known to block a Bomford Superflow with tines 2 ft apart.

    That's why we went for the secondhand Unidrill and the fact it firms the seed in as well which is very important on our light land. Only machine affordable form a farm as small as ours.

    I'd probably try a JD750 is it was affordable, but the Moore does a very acceptable job here.
     
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  7. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    Thanks @hendrebc .

    Does anyone know what 'pricing options' means please?
     
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  8. Barleycorn

    Barleycorn Member

    Location:
    Hampshire
    POA probably! Can't stand people doing that. Just do a bit of research and enter a price.
     
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  9. When I phoned about mine I asked if there were any cheaper second hand ones I could get without the grant. They didn't have any that would be cheaper than new with a grant but what he did say was they can service all second hand ones before they leave so they would be like they were new or at least useable. Maybe the options are full refurb, serviced to be usable or not serviced at all but you can buy parts you can put on yourself?
    That's just a guess though. Give them a ring they were very helpful with me.
     
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  10. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    Thanks @hendrebc - that makes sense. I'm still umming and aahing about buying a drill. Being organic (and required to be under terms of tenancy...) I'm never going to be able to go to full no-till; but I'd like to try and have a go at least some of the time. However I have to balance that against the cost and likely pay-back of buying anything. Having said all that, I'm reliant on using a borrowed 8 foot MF30 at present which is on its last legs, so I could do with buying something.
     
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  11. Get some sheep to nibble off any growth before drilling ;)
    Simtech is a very versatile drill it will put any seed into any surface apparently (y)
     
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  12. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    It's their versatility that appeals, going on what people seem to say anyway. As far as I can tell, the two options for a small scale operator like me are either Simtech or Moore, and really it comes down to one of either being available at the right time/place/price.

    I can't get my own sheep as the farm is very part-time for me at the moment, and I am half an hour away. So then I have to have B&B sheep, but they'd need to be organic. This farm has a lot of constraints, but then again I wouldn't be farming it if there weren't, as someone more capable would of taken it on before I got a look in.
     
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  13. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    The Simtech really does drill any seed (or mixture) into any surface IME, with the help of a pre-drilling roll on cultivated soil perhaps.

    The 2.4m 1998 drill in the advert posted certainly isn’t going to be big money, and I doubt you’d find anything DD worth having for less money tbh. I’ve always found everyone I’ve dealt with at Simtech to be extremely approachable, so all you’ve got to lose is the cost of a phone call......
     
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  14. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    Thanks @neilo - I shall give them a call. I've only heard good things about them, my question about 'pricing options' was genuine inasmuch as I really had no idea what it meant, but @hendrebc 's explanation made a lot of sense.
     
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  15. R.B.H

    R.B.H Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
  16. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    @R.B.H. - I'd not realised they even made a DD. I'm assuming it wasn't popular?
     
  17. Strautini

    Strautini New Member

    Location:
    Latvia, Gārsene
    Hello! Probably my first message. :)
    Just bought 93' Sulky Unidrill. It has 16" discs originally. Have someone put 18" on? How are the bearings holding? Maybe other issues?
     
  18. Strautini

    Strautini New Member

    Location:
    Latvia, Gārsene
  19. clbarclay

    clbarclay Member

    Location:
    Worcestershire
    I put 18" discs on mine when I got it and had a lack of penetration far too often until the discs had worn down to around 16". Often it would need so much of its weight balanced over the discs that press wheels will stop turning when the hopper is getting empty. I will probably let them wear down to 14 to 15" diameter, then replace with 16" discs.

    The 18" discs were fine on it when drilling cultivated ground, but for no-till I think they were too big for the weight of drill and best kept to much later Unidrills that are quite a bit heavier to start with.
     
  20. Strautini

    Strautini New Member

    Location:
    Latvia, Gārsene
    Yeah. That was also in my concern's list. Thanks!

    Have someone put liquid fert system on Unidrill? I'm thinking of best place to put hoses on. Closer but behind discs, closer to wheels, right behing coulters?
     

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