Origin of Covid

[BrianV]

Seriously! On the news tonight those so called experts or should we say gullible fools from the WHO have quickly decided China is not to blame for the Covid virus as it is likely the virus came from "imported" fish, so says the "scientist" connected to the lab in Wuham experimenting on the very same virus.
Given that the Chinese have had 12 months to clean up the evidence, can you imagine what Trump would say about this so called theory, maybe he was dead right in his views of the what looks like a very corrupt World Health Authority.
Not sure Biden will man up enough to criticise this farce, far more likely to blame Trump for everything!

 

[Muck Spreader]

Seriously! On the news tonight those so called experts or should we say gullible fools from the WHO have quickly decided China is not to blame for the Covid virus as it is likely the virus came from "imported" fish, so says the "scientist" connected to the lab in Wuham experimenting on the very same virus.
Given that the Chinese have had 12 months to clean up the evidence, can you imagine what Trump would say about this so called theory, maybe he was dead right in his views of the what looks like a very corrupt World Health Authority.
Not sure Biden will man up enough to criticise this farce, far more likely to blame Trump for everything!

Why should the WHO falsify their conclusions? They have to work with what evidence the Chinese give them, at the moment it's looking likely that this virus could have been around for quite a while before the Wuhan outbreak. Now it maybe that it came from another part of China or even another country atm no one can be certain. As for Trump, he just denied it was a problem and put nothing in place to protect the population.

 

[ollie989898]

It's a coronavirus- they are common in the animal kingdom and infect many other species. The fact it surfaced in China is probably coincidental. Thank your lucky stars it wasn't a case of mutant avian influenza that was born in some intensive poultry unit in Kent or something, it could well have arisen anywhere in the West.

 

[toquark]

A cover-up? China? I really could never have foreseen this.

 

[Stuart J]

Seriously! On the news tonight those so called experts or should we say gullible fools from the WHO have quickly decided China is not to blame for the Covid virus as it is likely the virus came from "imported" fish, so says the "scientist" connected to the lab in Wuham experimenting on the very same virus.
Given that the Chinese have had 12 months to clean up the evidence, can you imagine what Trump would say about this so called theory, maybe he was dead right in his views of the what looks like a very corrupt World Health Authority.
Not sure Biden will man up enough to criticise this farce, far more likely to blame Trump for everything!

How come you know more than the investigators? Genuine question.

 

[BrianV]

How come you know more than the investigators? Genuine question.

So we are to believe that the Chinese after refusing to allow the WHO into the country to discover the source for 12 months are now providing truthful information, if you believe that then you will believe anything.
If they were honest about the source they would have invited the WHO in at the very beginning, as it is you have to ask if not why not?

 

[corkman2013]

It's a coronavirus- they are common in the animal kingdom and infect many other species. The fact it surfaced in China is probably coincidental. Thank your lucky stars it wasn't a case of mutant avian influenza that was born in some intensive poultry unit in Kent or something, it could well have arisen anywhere in the West.

I looked at the film "Contagion" on Netflix last week. Made in 2011. It's very similar to what has happened in the last 12 months. Worth a look.

 

[BrianV]

Why should the WHO falsify their conclusions? They have to work with what evidence the Chinese give them, at the moment it's looking likely that this virus could have been around for quite a while before the Wuhan outbreak. Now it maybe that it came from another part of China or even another country atm no one can be certain. As for Trump, he just denied it was a problem and put nothing in place to protect the population.

The WHO base their conclusion on the evidence that the Chinese decide they will provide, some investigation that is!

 

[Muck Spreader]

The WHO base their conclusion on the evidence that the Chinese decide they will provide, some investigation that is!

So what do you expect them to do? They are a human health and medical organisation.

 

[BrianV]

So what do you expect them to do? They are a human health and medical organisation.

A pointless PR stunt for the Chinese, nothing else.

 

[Pluto]

Strangely the WHO’s current director-general, one Dr Ghebreyesus, was China’s chosen candidate to replace the previous DG, Margaret Chan, a Chinese national who ran the WHO from 2006 to 2017.
Japan’s deputy prime minister was quoted as saying that the WHO should be renamed the Chinese Health Organisation!
Still,I’m sure the WHO is completely impartial

 

[topground]

Perhaps it will be a different story once the WHO investigators have left Chinese territory and jurisdiction, Less chance of disappearing or having an accident than condemning the Chinese while enjoying their hospitality.

 

[stewart]

A pointless PR stunt for the Chinese, nothing else.

Just like the PR stunt of letting WHO know that there was a cluster of pneumonia in Wuhan, very easy to be critical, would the Western countries have declared the outbreak any sooner?

 

[grainboy]

Think certain WHO members

have a difference of opinion.

 

[oil barron]

The defense of the CCP by the French on this forum baffles me. I know Y’all are both socialists, but you must appreciate at least you have freedom in France.

 

[BrianV]

The WHO base their conclusion on the evidence that the Chinese decide they will provide, some investigation that is!

How come you know more than the investigators? Genuine question.

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Some investigation so far!

 

[Muck Spreader]

The defense of the CCP by the French on this forum baffles me. I know Y’all are both socialists, but you must appreciate at least you have freedom in France.

I defend the truth as best as I can ascertain it. And sticking the boot into the WHO because they haven't just invented a load of bullsh!t to appease Trump and his neo fascists or any other loony conspiracy theorists is not going help getting to the truth.

 

[BrianV]

Watching WHO's professor John Watson's performance on the Andrew Marr show this morning pretty much said everything you need to know about this so called investigation.

 

[BrianV]

I defend the truth as best as I can ascertain it. And sticking the boot into the WHO because they haven't just invented a load of bullsh!t to appease Trump and his neo fascists or any other loony conspiracy theorists is not going help getting to the truth.

The truth is all anyone can ask for, for instance if the Chinese have nothing to hide why have they not allowed the WHO into China for more than 12 months & even now with restricted access to what information the Chinese will allow.
As they say in all good detective stories "simply follow the money".

 

[Exfarmer]

The WHO have not been allowed access to any old samples from China pre dating the official start of Covid in Dec 2019.
Many other countries have traced the outbreaks through various ways, sewage samples , blood bank samples patient samples etc. This all provides means of tracing the outbreak.
The Chinese authorities have refused to come up with any of these things even though it was known that Wuhan hospitals had seen a surge of chest infections before this date. They cite patient confidentiality on the samples! All sewage samples have luckily been destroyed.