OSR brown seed

[Clive]

Stopped harvesting OSR today because there is a lot of brown seed in the sample

Crop is very dead, brown stems etc and very dry 6.5% It’s died rather than rippened so the effect we are seeing is similar to what you would get had you used glyphosate early I guess

Question is will brown / red seed get blacker if we wait or will time make no difference and simply risk weather losses ?

 

[Feldspar]

Stopped harvesting OSR today because there is a lot of brown seed in the sample

Crop is very dead, brown stems etc and very dry 6.5% It’s died rather than rippened so the effect we are seeing is similar to what you would get had you used glyphosate early I guess

Question is will brown / red seed get blacker if we wait or will time make no difference and simply risk weather losses ?

Crush them and see if the insides are yellow rather than green. Red seed not a problem if insides are yellow. Won't turn any blacker from what we've seen. We have a 5% threshold for green seeds.

 

[Simon Chiles]

Stopped harvesting OSR today because there is a lot of brown seed in the sample

Crop is very dead, brown stems etc and very dry 6.5% It’s died rather than rippened so the effect we are seeing is similar to what you would get had you used glyphosate early I guess

Question is will brown / red seed get blacker if we wait or will time make no difference and simply risk weather losses ?

Exactly as @Feldspar said except our local store said 2%. Easiest way to tell percentage is to count 100 seeds ( that’s the difficult bit as they are small this year ) and place them between two sheets of paper. I folded the edges so none could escape and smacked them with a hammer. It’s then easy to see how many are green and therefore quickly determine the percentage.

 

[Feldspar]

Exactly as @Feldspar said except our local store said 2%. Easiest way to tell percentage is to count 100 seeds ( that’s the difficult bit as they are small this year ) and place them between two sheets of paper. I folded the edges so none could escape and smacked them with a hammer. It’s then easy to see how many are green and therefore quickly determine the percentage.

Even easier if you do it on the back of some duck tape.

 

[Clive]

Even easier if you do it on the back of some duck tape.

I actualy have a 100 seed counting device would you believe !

 

[Simon Chiles]

Even easier if you do it on the back of some duck tape.

Now you’re just being flash, we can’t afford to waste duck tape and it’s a good use of Pro Cam’s invoices.

 

[Simon Chiles]

I actualy have a 100 seed counting device would you believe !

Aren’t your kids meant to be in school?

 

[Hooch]

I think it is an Elgar issue mine was all like that 145 t all delivered and no complaints yellow when crushed

 

[Feldspar]

I actualy have a 100 seed counting device would you believe !

Put them in that and then put a piece of tape over the top and remove in a nice grid.

And, yes, Elgar seems to be particularly bad for it.

 

[franklin]

Bad year for red seed in general I think.

 

[Clive]

Thanks - sounds a lot like we should just carry on as it’s not going to get any better

The red / brown seeds do crush yellow

No green seed really in the sample

It’s Elgar so maybe varietal ?

 

[Feldspar]

Thanks - sounds a lot like we should just carry on as it’s not going to get any better

The red / brown seeds do crush yellow

No green seed really in the sample

It’s Elgar so maybe varietal ?

Just carry on. Elgar always does it to a degree.

 

[Clive]

Aren’t your kids meant to be in school?

It’s a very high tech (frontier branded) piece of Perspex with 100 small holes drilled in it about 2-3mm deep

Dig it in a sample and level off with the back of a ruler and then stick masking tape over to lift the 100 seeds from the 100 holes

 

[Clive]

Just carry on. Elgar always does it to a degree.

Wasted a day really today moving about looking for better.

Even tried some wheat just 14.5% and 15.7% protein (Montana e wheat ) but horrid sample as not fit enough to thrash well just yet

Bbq and beer time !

 

[T Hectares]

Exactly the same issue here, the above comments are spot on.

My Elgar is 0.7t/ha down on the Sparrow I cut earlier, which was totally black seed, oils ok at Elgar 44% Sparrow 45%

Elgar out the door here next year...maybe back to Campus, it always seems reliable!!

 

[Simon Chiles]

Wasted a day really today moving about looking for better.

Even tried some wheat just 14.5% and 15.7% protein (Montana e wheat ) but horrid sample as not fit enough to thrash well just yet

Bbq and beer time !

I think that’s true for everyone this year. The grain is dry but it isn’t actually properly ripe yet. The poor sample from the combine is the best indicator. We’re sitting around looking at dry wheat but I know it’s not really ready yet so are waiting, probably for another ten days.

 

[binbusy]

Elgars a funny variety, it’s not for the faint hearted. The seed always looks more several shades of brown rather than black. Oil is good dispite it’s looks.
I’m more bothered about moisture this year tbh especially since We can’t seem to cut it above 5.5% no matter what time we start.

 

[APJ]

Django here is throwing red/brown seeds too!

 

[Woodlander]

Django top, Barbados bottom

 

[SilliamWhale]

Yes django red seeds here too.

p.s. as a variety its no better than all the others I've grown over the years. What are we paying breeders for in OSR? Its the same old thing each year