OSR Drilling 2019

[DrWazzock]

First 2 pics OSR direct drilled into grass second week of September. There are large bald areas. That's the best of it.
3rd pic stubble turnips behind stubble cultivator last week in August. All got away nicely albeit a bit late to grow any size of root.
The OSR sown by same method as turnips into stubbles in first week of September has been completely obliterated by beetles.

 

[Adeptandy]

I'm more confused than ever this year, did 25 acre DD with Metcalfs on the Freeflow 11/08 eaten by CSFB redrilled 28/09 just before the rain hit, eaten again, but where the original patches had survived the new stuff has as well. Did another 20 acre 18/08 with the short discs and then Freeflow, not great, but enough to leave then another 40 acre short disc/freeflow 28/09 and according to the agronomist is doing well.
Any idea's why the DD has failed considerin gthis should be the best way for not losing soil moisture etc

 

[DrWazzock]

"Other" soil borne problem? Leatherjackets, soil borne fungal disease? Aleopathy from chopped straw?

How early can alternaria strike? I have some patches where the cotyledons seem to die off pretty quickly a bit like "damping off". Or maybe its glypho residue on the dying mat of vegetation.

 

[Adeptandy]

"Other" soil borne problem? Leatherjackets, soil borne fungal disease? Aleopathy from chopped straw?

How early can alternaria strike? I have some patches where the cotyledons seem to die off pretty quickly a bit like "damping off". Or maybe its glypho residue on the dying mat of vegetation.

Straw baled, no glypho used on the fields since Oct 2017

 

[CORK]

Expansion growing away now, sown first days of September - would have preferred earlier but was waiting to get winter wheat straw off the land.

It’s a little sparser than I’d like but hopefully the plants will branch out well and allow a deep canopy to form.

Falcon graminicide cleared up the wheat volunteers nicely.
Glad to have it sown as we’re having a miserable cereal sowing season at this side of the Irish Sea too.

 

[JCfarmer]

Well CORK the free flowing border has not let flea beetle in to Southern Ireland yet from what I can see of your good crop of osr but anything can happen post brexit!
Cracking crop by the way for the date drilled.

 

[CORK]

Well CORK the free flowing border has not let flea beetle in to Southern Ireland yet from what I can see of your good crop of osr but anything can happen post brexit!
Cracking crop by the way for the date drilled.

Thankfully we don’t seem to have a problem with FB here. I think it’s mainly down to lack of crop, WOSR would really be a minority crop here.

I agree - anything can happen!!!

 

[lloyd]

Thankfully we don’t seem to have a problem with FB here. I think it’s mainly down to lack of crop, WOSR would really be a minority crop here.

I agree - anything can happen!!!

Don't count on it
We'll be looking to export you something.

 

[Oscar]

@CORK , looking very good ! It looks strange as your leaves have no shot holes or chunks missing !! Mine is similar size and ok I hope,but 90% of the leaves are damaged.

 

[CORK]

@CORK , looking very good ! It looks strange as your leaves have no shot holes or chunks missing !! Mine is similar size and ok I hope,but 90% of the leaves are damaged.

I am hoping for a relatively low population of strong plants. I would rather if they were sown a bit earlier. I have a population of only about 24 plants/m2.
I was in touch with the breeder (I deal with him through work) and he said that the actual optimum for yield is a spring population of 15 plants.

Wouldn't have thought it would be this low but it gives me hope.

Hope the pigeons don't annihilate it.............

Interestingly, the higher the plant population you start with, the higher the % plant losses you will have over winter. It makes sense when you think about it. A lower population of plants should have a higher level of nutrient/light and space per plant and thus be stronger.

 

[DrWazzock]

i drilled some last week an as experiment to patch up 5 acres that had failed. It's all emerged nicely (best emergence of any I drilled this year) and nothing biting it yet. An experiment. Slug pelleted pre drilling as there were plenty about and maybe that was reason for failure of that patch.

20 acres of volunteers that didn't all die when sprayed off with glyphosate look best of all. The glyphosate thinned them out to about the right population: some probably shaded from the spray by their neighbour's. Might be better to leave it in situ for now. Not really good practice but maybe .75 ton per acre with low inouts would be better than wall to wall spring barley. We will see what the larvae do to it though.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Crop seen today in Kent. Disc drilled into stripped spring barley. Looks very promising. Have to add its not my efforts!

 

[Lincsman]

What are the beans for?... or is it a cover crop?

 

[Northdowns Martin]

What are the beans for?... or is it a cover crop?

It was on a farm field walk principally looking at planting into stripped crops. The beans are there as a companion crop to the rape and I believe plan is to spray them out later in season but also to leave a trial strip in place to see if any benefit

 

[Lincsman]

It was on a farm field walk principally looking at planting into stripped crops. The beans are there as a companion crop to the rape and I believe plan is to spray them out later in season but also to leave a trial strip in place to see if any benefit

Would be interesting to know what the flea beetle maggot burden is in the stems.

 

[Renaultman]

Wet wet wet here, crops are struggling but walking well. I think I have misjudged the amount of nutrients 2 10t + crops of wheat can take out. It had seed bed FYM but with hindsight I maybe should have put a bit of seed bed N on

 

[Brisel]

I've got fields thinner than that. Found my first CSFB larva in a stem this evening

 

[Renaultman]

I've got fields thinner than that. Found my first CSFB larva in a stem this evening

So have I and will lose some contract stuff altogether I fear.

 

[Bob lincs]

I finished desiccating mine yesterday!!! Bit early but hey ho . 20ac left out of 300ac . Went in well , had a full plant but drought and csfb . Jus having an add up if I redrill it all with spring wheat and don’t drill anymore ww I need 100ton of seed .

 

[Flat 10]

I finished desiccating mine yesterday!!! Bit early but hey ho . 20ac left out of 300ac . Went in well , had a full plant but drought and csfb . Jus having an add up if I redrill it all with spring wheat and don’t drill anymore ww I need 100ton of seed .