osr header losses.
- Thread starter Fubar
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- South Shropshire
Get a slow down sprocket for the auger, it helps.
The auger is usually the limiting factor in output - a knife extension to catch the seed shedding sooner would be a better (if more expensive) investment IMO.
Who makes extensions for New Hollands? Biso is one but I can't think of any others. I think Zurn are only for John Deeres.
Who makes extensions for New Hollands? Biso is one but I can't think of any others. I think Zurn are only for John Deeres.
Cheval too.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
and blockages! Less momentum = more jam ups
- Location
- Cirencester
We welded a piece of angle iron along the front of ours (just behind the knife, on the main bed) this seemed to help with some of the losses, also helps stop stones from getting onto the bed. I see there is a 24ft extension for sale on Farm trader, not sure if you can shorten them?
- Location
- In the middle.
Boccasion ltd had a biso in there add last month.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Do you leave it there all the time?
I'm sure an extension would help further as it means seeds are less likely to be thrown forward and off the header. Forward speed is also key to so that when seeds drop, you've moved forward and they hit the header rather than the floor.
- Location
- Cirencester
Yes, used to, was welded on. Helped no end on the brash with the stones also. Chap next door had done it, said he'd got on well with it, so did the same with our TX. We now have a vari header, which is simplicity in itself.
I know where you are coming from with this idea , the last combine we had was and with a zurn front . The zurn front has a step in the extension to act like your angel iron will , the results are you lose less over the front especially when cutting headlands . I now drive a nh and miss this feature
Farmer Miggins
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- Location
- East Anglia
Raise the auger off the bed and retract the fingers at the bottom, should help get the volume in without it standing and being thrashed by the auger fingers. Without an extension the use of the reel is the worst culprit for "header" losses; good forward speed should mean the reel is unnecessary, before I had an extension I used to take the reel off and put a piece of tin up the back of the header to stop the rape from launching over the back of the header and on to the outside of the elevator. Fear is the worst factor, header reverse was one of the best things ever invented!
Mr Charisma
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- Location
- stratford on Avon
I have a zurn header extention and header losses are almost a thing of the past ,,,,,,,,,, But having struggled without for many years I would say heat of the day was the worst cause ,,,,,,, I would always try and park up during the middle of the day during a hot spell , dull weather is your best friend
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Do you think it's ok after 3pm or so? I wouldnt think it would as once it's dry, you'd need to wait til 9-10pm surely?
Mr Charisma
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- Location
- stratford on Avon
In the past we've not started till 9pm and cut through the night , but every year is different and everyone's harvest is different , at that time we didn't seem to be in a big panic , the combine didn't have air con so it was a much more pleasant experience sat in the cool of the night whilst nibbling away at rape , for the last 15 years tho we have had a powerflow or header extension except for 3 years in the middle ,,,, those 3 years were enough to make me make sure I had some sort of method of having a knife away from the auger
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Dilemma here
We have old JD1000 series bed. Not very good in tall dry rape direct cut. So we swath and use draper pickup.
Swather getting very worn, same as draper pickup plus take up a lot of shed space.
So either a new combine header or extension
OR
Combine direct at higher moisture such as 11% so seed isn't lost over the front and take the hit drying it all down. Might be more cost effective than special equipment? We used to combine direct at higher moistures with old beds and had some of the best yields ever.
Might go back to that. Sometimes less is more.
Also make sure to grow a semi dwarf variety.
We have old JD1000 series bed. Not very good in tall dry rape direct cut. So we swath and use draper pickup.
Swather getting very worn, same as draper pickup plus take up a lot of shed space.
So either a new combine header or extension
OR
Combine direct at higher moisture such as 11% so seed isn't lost over the front and take the hit drying it all down. Might be more cost effective than special equipment? We used to combine direct at higher moistures with old beds and had some of the best yields ever.
Might go back to that. Sometimes less is more.
Also make sure to grow a semi dwarf variety.
spikeislander
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- Location
- bedfordshire
years ago we got a header extension before current combine which has it already.
I would consider getting one for next year as you wont believe how much better it is
I would consider getting one for next year as you wont believe how much better it is
I think Zurn make extensions for any make but they make all John Deere headers I believe
Farmer Miggins
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- Location
- East Anglia
How about double set of lifters and undercut the swath, used to do that in the eighties as my area of swathed rape didn't justify a draper
Tonym
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- Location
- Shropshire
MF power flow header is the best thing I ever used in rape. It has got a lot of knife to auger clearance and the power flow belts keep the crop moving to the auger so you do not have to help the flow with the reel. My last combine before I retired was an MF and thought that al if I had bought another make I would have grafted a powerflow header on it. MF also have a rape auger that sits above the main auger to stop the crop going over the main auger but never seen one working.