osr sowing survival strategy

Ugo79

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Location
The Shire
Yes, a better answer đź‘Ť
Not sure this is the right answer....

30 kg N/ha in the autumn to WOSR applies to manufactured nitrogen fertiliser.

My understanding is you can apply an organic manure up to the field/farm limit (250/170 kg total N/ha) and there is nothing in the NVZ regs to stop you applying another 30 kg N/ha in the form of bagged fertiliser.... whether this is beneficial/economical is a different debate but I don’t think you are breaking the NVZ regs by doing it.
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Nervous times with no migration yet, warm dry week ahead...
Just so nice to walk Rape and see it going forward, chanced another 30 ha today!!
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thorpe

Member
put 40 acres in today we had wrote it off but agrono said get it in , hope we did the righjt thing he has nothing to loose , but we do!
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Some patches struggling after spring barley, the last I drilled, lots of slugs and flea beetle about now. My plan of keeping things as cheap as possible to mitigate risk may be sensible. If any bits aren’t decent by kerb timing then we will just spray them off and plant spring oats so keeping the blocks all first wheat.
The cost losses will be a dose of pellets ÂŁ8/ha, gramincide ÂŁ5ha and 30kg of N ÂŁ14ish. Everything else would have been done anyway, the drilling of the companion/cover crop and rolling of it.
not the end of the world if we do have to do this. No way would I be growing rape with expensive hybrid seed and high cost establishment.
on the whole pretty happy with how things look though.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Bought in elga

would you fert at this stage. Lots like that with some up

When that emerges it needs N in the soil solution around the seed to assist good autumn development and grow away from slugs/flea beetle/pigeons. It’s still some investment you may have to write off if you lose the crop but not giving it some help makes it more likely to fail. Not an easy one to judge.

How deep is that seed?
 

jack6480

Member
Location
Staffs
When that emerges it needs N in the soil solution around the seed to assist good autumn development and grow away from slugs/flea beetle/pigeons. It’s still some investment you may have to write off if you lose the crop but not giving it some help makes it more likely to fail. Not an easy one to judge.

How deep is that seed?
Max depth probably an inch, ground is hard after the rain.... il put the fert on it’s cheap enough
 
Location
North Notts
Some patches struggling after spring barley, the last I drilled, lots of slugs and flea beetle about now. My plan of keeping things as cheap as possible to mitigate risk may be sensible. If any bits aren’t decent by kerb timing then we will just spray them off and plant spring oats so keeping the blocks all first wheat.
The cost losses will be a dose of pellets ÂŁ8/ha, gramincide ÂŁ5ha and 30kg of N ÂŁ14ish. Everything else would have been done anyway, the drilling of the companion/cover crop and rolling of it.
not the end of the world if we do have to do this. No way would I be growing rape with expensive hybrid seed and high cost establishment.
on the whole pretty happy with how things look though.

It doesn’t sound much but soon bloody adds up if on big scale, let’s hope the stuff that makes it is worth a bit of money.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
went to visit the crop ( yes crop) this afternoon after putting an extra dose of N on thursday all been washed in and still no sign of much insect damage just the odd plant chewed and only the odd plant with a shot hole and traps not containing any pests just black beetles and a few tiny fly type crittars, other than a headland which is a tad slow most is getting past first true leaf stage, so far so good will be needing a grass herbicide sooner rather than later ,any recommendations ?
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
It doesn’t sound much but soon bloody adds up if on big scale, let’s hope the stuff that makes it is worth a bit of money.
I’ve planted about 300ha and currently think maybe 20-30 of the latest drilled can go spring oats. On the whole it’s good.
Winter barley and early winter wheat are definitely less hassle than establishing after spring barley.
I think back in the day we would have spent so much money that any poor bits we would try andtake through to harvest only to be bitterly disappointed. Losing ÂŁ25/30ha is an easier decision to make compared to ÂŁ150+!
 

Zan

Member
I’ve got to run through my rape to take out wheat volunteers soon, do I chuck an insecticide in? Some damage on every leaf, I think it’s away from them but you can find adults if you look......?
Don’t want to do more harm than good 🤷‍♂️
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
thats the plan here crop seems to be away but it doesnt mean our guard will be dropped a tad concerned as to other neighbouring stubbles and yet to emerge crops in the locality and the prevailing wind direction
Fairly happy with mine, and even happier that there is little damage on the volunteer rape. A little nervous about the contract HEAR OSR it's had 2 doses of slug pellets and I insecticide.
Mine has had nothing.
 

pebble

Member
If plenty of shotholing and you don’t apply an insecticide will this not make larvae problems worse later on?.

I realise you can go back later for larvae which are slightly more vulnerable if correctly timed.


Can anybody advise?.
 

Zan

Member
If plenty of shotholing and you don’t apply an insecticide will this not make larvae problems worse later on?.

I realise you can go back later for larvae which are slightly more vulnerable if correctly timed.


Can anybody advise?.

this is my worry, if I don’t go now then will it not make the chance of larvae worse?
 

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