Overseeding Grassland

[Jon.S]

Morning all.

Thinking of trying to improve some permanent grassland here. Cant plough most of it as I don't particularly fancy spending the rest of my working life picking stones and repairing stone drains. Was planning on burning the old sward off, grazing bare then using a slot seeder/direct drill and follow with a good rolling.

Just wondering what peoples experiences/opinions were about this method of reseeding any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[multi power]

ph, p, k levels ?

 

[Jon.S]

Haven't had them tested yet but will be doing so before we do anything.

 

[Bob c]

read method 6 on pdf http://www.moore-unidrill.com/files/grassland-leaflet-new.pdf

60 to 70 % failed in place`s in one field we did

 

[exmoor dave]

excellent threat on it here from last year.

http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/overseeding-grass-wondering.10069/

 

[Great In Grass]

read method 6 on pdf http://www.moore-unidrill.com/files/grassland-leaflet-new.pdf

60 to 70 % failed in place`s in one field we did

Did you apply slug pellets at sowing or directly afterwards? Slugs will graze off one or two acres through the night long before you see any new growth.

 

[Andyrob]

Surely grass harrows to rip out dead grass and get some top tilth working would be better

 

[Great In Grass]

There are specialist over seed mixtures available, I have customers who have had success with a standard grass ley mixture.

I've attached a little guide to overseeding which may help.

 

[Great In Grass]

Surely grass harrows to rip out dead grass and get some top tilth working would be better

Don't call me Shirley.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Was thinking the same , may go for a light disc and power harrow then broadcast , other option is stubble turnips this would give us a better seed bed later for grass

 

[multi power]

Surely grass harrows to rip out dead grass and get some top tilth working would be better

the dead grass is a result of poor grazing managment, better to tackle the problem than just treat the symptom

 

[Andyrob]

was mentioned about burning it off, hence the dead grass.

 

[tractorbob]

ph, p, k levels ?

Compaction?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How is it to be managed after, there is no point spending money on new pasture if its going to be mistreated ,
If you are to rent out fir instance , a tenant may not look after the ground like you would yourself

 

[Kiss]

Put some fert in after you've sprayed helps break down the old grass

 

[Tarw Coch]

Morning all.

Thinking of trying to improve some permanent grassland here. Cant plough most of it as I don't particularly fancy spending the rest of my working life picking stones and repairing stone drains. Was planning on burning the old sward off, grazing bare then using a slot seeder/direct drill and follow with a good rolling.

Just wondering what peoples experiences/opinions were about this method of reseeding any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Did 2 fields in the autumn, sprayed off with glyphosate and cyren and direct drilled with a Moore drill.
One field has come very well but the other was taken by slugs. Could see the grass coming up on one on a saturday but nothing on the other. Had agronomist to look at it on the monday and put slug pellets on on the tuesday but it was too late.

One plus point of doing this over ploughing/reseeding is the ground stays firm which has helped no end when grazing with sheep over an exceptionally wet winter.

 

[johnb5555]

Can you overseed into a field in spring that you are gonna close for cutting. Will this depend on how open and poached the sward has become over winter.

 

[roscoe erf]

excellent threat on it here from last year.

http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/overseeding-grass-wondering.10069/

now then dave he only asked

 

[Great In Grass]

Can you overseed into a field in spring that you are gonna close for cutting. Will this depend on how open and poached the sward has become over winter.

Ideally you would only graze in the first year, if you want to cut wait until the new plants are strong and well established and don't cut too low.

 

[exmoor dave]

now then dave he only asked

hahaha! i was being menacing!