Pigouvian tax

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
how can a firm be worth 14.6 billion with no sales ?

Probably incorrect to say no sales, but rather no profit. But that's the wacky word of US investments atm to much money looking for a home. So if you make veggie burgers or run a home delivery service or Taxi. Cloak it with the words 'tech' and add 'entrepreneur' or 'environmental' and they will throw money at you even if it's unlikely to ever make any.
 

SteveHants

Member
Livestock Farmer
Exactly the response I would expect here. But you need to look much wider at how society is now being restructered and how the rules are being changed to bring in the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Start connecting the dots or it will be too late. Do you really think that these players would be investing so much money if they didn't know that's where the future lies?

  • Beyond Meat
  • Impossible Foods
  • Turtle Island Foods
  • Field Roast
  • Yves Veggie Cuisine
  • Amy's Kitchen
  • Kellogg'sMorningstar Farms
  • LightLifeMaple Leaf Foods
  • Qishan Foods
  • Hongchang
  • Sulian
  • Sutianxia

Beyond Meat's net worth as of July 30, 2021 was $7.74B

Last year, the U.S. plant-based food market grew by 27% to reach $7 billion, growing nearly twice as fast as the total U.S. retail food market, according to a Microsmallcap.com report.

Arun Sundaram, senior equity research analyst at CFRA Research, said in a research note sent to GOBankingRates that the industry is on the verge of crossing from niche to mainstream, particularly as advances are made to improve the taste, nutrition and overall cost profile of plant-based food products.

“The plant-based meat industry in particular has massive upside, by our estimates, as we forecast the global plant-based meat industry reaching $100 billion by 2030, representing a 10-year CAGR [compound annual growth rate] of approximately 20%-25%,”

Wakey, wakey.
You do know some of the biggest investors in meat free meat are..... meat companies (see: Cargill). They are just exploiting a new revenue stream and unlikely to abandon billion pound meat revenues
 

GeorgeC1

Member
Yer but nobody will buy it I don’t reckon same as the vegan and quorn type stuff sits in the shelves and rots

Actually I find Quorn Nuggets to be delicious personally

Meat is artificially cheaper due to subsidies, people actually paid what the real cost of Agricultural products in general they will be astounded at just how subsidised it all is.
 

Swarfmonkey

Member
Location
Hampshire
Engage brain please George.

All food produced in the UK has been artificially cheaper at the checkout due to ag subsidies. CAP subs were £3bn a year. In the grand scheme of things that's **** all. With central government spending of nearly £670bn a year (last full year pre covid, far more at the moment!) it's basically Treasury pocket change.

To put it in context:

Tax relief for charities costs the taxpayer twice as much
Tax Credits cost the taxpayer 6 times as much
Housing Benefit costs the taxpayer 7 times as much

*edit*

To give you an idea just how little that 3 billion quid is, UK consumers spent more than 103 billion on food last year (Statista 2021)
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Actually I find Quorn Nuggets to be delicious personally

Meat is artificially cheaper due to subsidies, people actually paid what the real cost of Agricultural products in general they will be astounded at just how subsidised it all is.

Nope.

I regularly point this out on twitter. Meat doesn't receive any subs in England. Land owners do.

Some of the biggest meat exporting nations in the world (NZ and Australia) don't have any ag subs at all.
 

orchard

Member
Actually I find Quorn Nuggets to be delicious personally

Meat is artificially cheaper due to subsidies, people actually paid what the real cost of Agricultural products in general they will be astounded at just how subsidised it all is.


Mycoprotein (39%), Water, Rehydrated Free Range Egg White, Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamine), Vegetable Oils (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Salt, Maize Flour, Wheat Starch, Milk Proteins, Textured Wheat Protein (Wheat Protein, Wheat Flour), Natural Flavouring, Raising Agents: Tetrasodium Diphosphate, Sodium Carbonate; Pea Fibre, Firming Agents: Calcium Chloride, Calcium Acetate; Wheat Gluten, Gelling Agent: Pectin; Dextrose.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Actually I find Quorn Nuggets to be delicious personally

That's the whole idea of highly processed foods the food giants want you to buy. Cheap basic ingredients mixed with high quantities of salts, sugars, fats and artificial flavourings. Then sold at 2 to 3 times the price of the product they are supposed to be replacing, as a healthy option to you and maximum profit to them.
 

GeorgeC1

Member
The old saying goes that "you are what you eat"...



...which explains why you're bland and tasteless, despite being very salty .

Have you actually eaten Quorn Nuggets etc lol.

They taste like nuggets to me but with extra herbs and spice's flavour.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Have you actually eaten Quorn Nuggets etc lol.

They taste like nuggets to me but with extra herbs and spice's flavour.

I’ve eaten Quorn twice, and both times were disappointing. I then read the history of why ICI created Marlow Foods, how the manufacturing process was developed as a way to create an artificial protein source for the livestock industry, and how Quorn is made by circulating the Fusarium Venenatum fungus through a nutrient rich soup in giant stainless tanks before heat treating it to remove excess RNA so it doesn’t cause gout.
The genius of Quorn is in the marketing of a barely edible but ultra processed livestock feed (mixed with palm oil) to a gullible public, on the understanding that they’re ‘saving the planet’ by eating a ‘healthy’ product.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Yeah.
Well.
These fake meat company's won't last long, once the super markets demand COP related contracts and then make them pay for promo loss leader status to get the peeps in the stores to buy real two quid chickens. 🤣🤣
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 105 40.9%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 93 36.2%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 39 15.2%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 5 1.9%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 12 4.7%

May Event: The most profitable farm diversification strategy 2024 - Mobile Data Centres

  • 1,674
  • 32
With just a internet connection and a plug socket you too can join over 70 farms currently earning up to £1.27 ppkw ~ 201% ROI

Register Here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-mo...2024-mobile-data-centres-tickets-871045770347

Tuesday, May 21 · 10am - 2pm GMT+1

Location: Village Hotel Bury, Rochdale Road, Bury, BL9 7BQ

The Farming Forum has teamed up with the award winning hardware manufacturer Easy Compute to bring you an educational talk about how AI and blockchain technology is helping farmers to diversify their land.

Over the past 7 years, Easy Compute have been working with farmers, agricultural businesses, and renewable energy farms all across the UK to help turn leftover space into mini data centres. With...
Top