Planning application overlooking my slurry pit/parlour

[Boohoo]

My other concerns to which I can't do anything about is the fact the site has a footpath leading straight into the centre of my yard on it.

Make sure you mention that in your letter and use it to your advantage. If these are to be holiday homes, people like to walk and explore when on holiday and the footpath encourages them to, but this would pose a risk to your business, from both a biosecurity and a health and safety prospective.

 

[Blue.]

Can't you get the path diverted?

It does well if two people a year use that particular path,never been a problem in the past,if this holiday camp is granted then I'll have an influx.

Hard to describe but two footpaths meet in the centre of my yard then split again,in effect I've four footpaths meet in the middle of my yard at the end of my garden.It would be hard to divert,better shut! But that's not going to happen.

 

[Tarw Coch]

What are the local roads like? Are narrow lanes suitable for the extra traffic this development will generate?
Could also point out that if this development causes objections to your business, which presumably hasn't had any complaints in the past then you will have no option but to sell up with the loss of X number of jobs, can you show that your business delivers more jobs for the local community than this new development?

 

[Blue.]

What are the local roads like? Are narrow lanes suitable for the extra traffic this development will generate?
Could also point out that if this development causes objections to your business, which presumably hasn't had any complaints in the past then you will have no option but to sell up with the loss of X number of jobs, can you show that your business delivers more jobs for the local community than this new development?

Site is direct onto a good B road,shocking access due to being on the brow of a hill.

The application is stating it will provide 5 jobs,no way!!

 

[Will Blackburn]

It should go to a full planning meeting, go to the meeting and state your case, make sure you only say stuff that is planning relevant.

 

[Yale]

It should go to a full planning meeting, go to the meeting and state your case, make sure you only say stuff that is planning relevant.

To add,if your councillor is supporting it he will get his say so pre empt his arguments and in your famous 5 mins pick his arguments apart with fact.

 

[Al R]

How close to the properties/land can you spread slurry? Go out daily and put 1 load next to them from now on...

Put planning in for a 500 cow dairy unit and 3mG slurry lagoon and put it about that your moving to 3 times a day milking??

What area are you in?

 

[dairyrow]

We had this last year. Golf course been bought and he wanted to put 20 holiday cabins up on part of it. If he did the lot could of ended up with 100 there. We complained about the road access and safety of more cars on it. Also about the extra water going to be dumped down the ditch potentially flooding the houses below. We also got the house owners to complain and some of the neighbours did about access. You have to log your complaints because the planning officer has to look at it then. Local councillor would of been no good with ours because they're best mates.

 

[mixed breed]

Object, its very easy to just let it wash over you and think it will be fine. It won't.
At our previous farm (tenanted), there was a small vicarage within 1/2ac of garden. It was knocked down and three houses put up just 12metres away from our dairy, cubicle shed, slurry and silage pit. I hate the phrase "townies", but Life was never the same. Complaints of tanker backing up the lane at 1 in the morning, Cows bawling, flies, smells, we once had a downer cow which we lifted out onto the field and they were out with their cameras videoing us and the Rspca was called, It was unbearable to the point when the offer to move was made, we took it. It's all houses now and apparently they say they miss the sights and sounds of the farm.

 

[atlas]

A friend of my in Herefordshire applied for permitted development but the council turned it down after the environmental l department report stated it was too close to a chicken shed site 150 m away using odour as the reason for objection so would be worth getting a letter in stating how close the site is to a slurry lagoon .

 

[rob1]

Dont write to object to the plans but state how close it is to your existing business and that you wouldnt be allowed to build that close to houses, try and get the planning officer to come out with the planning commitee to have a look, that will far more effective than speaking at a meeting in a nice warm office, make sure as has been said the milking parlour is running and stir the slurry and silage up to make a smell, mention the fact that if your bisness is forced to close because they allow this plan through you will sue the council for loss of that business, spend time looking through other such applications to see how they have been dealt with,ask tem to address specific questions such as smell,noise and view and how a holidaying person would want to accept those, the officers will have to answer those points in his decision arguments,try and find planning policies that mention building in these sensitive areas and quote them and of course dont forget the health and safety aspect of the footpaths going through your yard and ask the council to place a condition that the applicant has to pay to get them moved.

A well thought out and reasoned argument will work a " this isnt fair, I dont want it near me" one wont.
Remember planning is a game you need to learn the rules to win

Good luck

 

[Sid]

Do I point out the obvious in a letter to planning rather than objecting?

Thats what i did when someone put in an application directly opposite my yard.
Letter of representation stating its a dairy unit with noise silage and muck. Risk of noise flies smell.

Wouldn't have thought they would then have the right to object to any existing operations.

 

[Bongodog]

Definitely point out the obvious, a good aspect is that its holiday homes, so there shouldn't be a chance of anyone compiling a long term dossier of noise/smell, but i might be an idea to emphasise that this is a good reason why they should never become permanent dwellings. Additionally if this goes ahead you will be up the proverbial creek planning wise, no more serving notices stating an agricultural building will be going up in 30 days time. Time to draw up the wish list for the next 20 years, get it down on paper and approved. As long as you start within 3 years you've got forever to finish.
You will need to make it an "objection" or there is zero chance of it going anywhere near a planning committee, local councils have targets to meet, must approve something like 90% of applications within 8 weeks, and mustn't take more than 10% to committee. Most applications are decided either by officers, or at a chairmans delegation meeting. I have spent many years on our Parish Council planning committee so have a good idea of how it goes.
Your Parish council will be asked to comment, they should meet and discuss it in public and give you a chance to speak at the meeting. They must publicly announce when they are meeting and issue an agenda at least three clear days before hand. Its worthwhile going as most cllrs find it difficult to ignore parishioners views and their request for an application to go to committee bears more weight than yours.
Lastly does your district cllr have any relationship with the applicant, business or personal. If so they must declare it and not attend the meeting.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

I world not focus on the footpath, it's a right of way and whilst this may get worse it's not really a planning thing.

I am not sure I would object but rather make it v clear as others have said about the problems.

Ask them if they would give you planning for what you have now if they were there first, I'd consider involving a good agent, this will be life changing stuff for you if it goes through.

 

[Moorlands]

Do a petition so long as you get more than six signatures on it planners will have to take it to planning meeting someone did that with an application of ours.

 

[Hindsight]

You might be well to consult a good planning consultant to assist in writing your objections. That way you will be advised what if any planning reasons there are for refusal and vice versa why planning would not be refused.

 

[Nearly]

@GeorgieB82

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Do a petition so long as you get more than six signatures on it planners will have to take it to planning meeting someone did that with an application of ours.

This may bethe policy in your local authority but is not common practice nationally. Each Local Authority has its own rules as to how and when an application is brought in front of a committee.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

After reading what you are objecting to, I would formally in the form of a letter stating that you feel the site is unsuitable for further development on environmental health grounds due to the proximity to your slurry pit.
Is the land within the Limits of Built Environment or on a Brownfield site? Most land around farms tends to be Green Belt / Open Counrtyside and developemt would normally be frowned upon anyway.
Drop me a PM if you want me to have a quick look at the application.

 

[Gulli]

Are you allowed to build houses that close to a yard? Thought there was a 400m limit?