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Granite Farmer

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Mixed Farmer
"Agriculture" is also unsustainable, so it doesn't really matter whether your forests were cleared two thousand years ago or last week.
Timing, the only real difference, eg the favoured tools of today will not work in future, other than adapted livestock (which may well outlive our own species).

Farming is seldom the sole reason behind deforestation - the trees themselves are/were valuable enough to extract. The land under them.

The human plague is the problem here, and modern agriculture simply perpetuates that problem.

Thus, it's a very flawed discussion if the footprint of lumber extraction is conveniently tacked onto meat production to build a case, as flawed as the ideals of veganism or 'offsetting Carbon emissions' - IMHO.
Where are all the natural forest ecosystems in the UK? NZ?

The real problem lies within our own species, this slice of truth won't please the Beeb any more than the farmer.
Its funny isn't that this drive to reduce, no, eliminate animal agriculture is really just an act of can kicking. Ultimately making the inevitable outcome even worse.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Its funny isn't that this drive to reduce, no, eliminate animal agriculture is really just an act of can kicking. Ultimately making the inevitable outcome even worse.
I feel that our "peak" - civilisation, monetary based illusions of wealth, may actually be our lowest point as a species.
In a world without agriculture and money, our real measure as humans would be what we give, not what we take.
This blows most ideals right out of the water, sad that we uphold them so as to kill our planet in the process of living, and that we use the less fortunate as stepping-stones on the way up (down??)
 

Cluny

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Location
Aberfeldy
Hopefully we are all getting worked up over nothing...you never know they might conclude that the most sustainable diet is a local omnivorous one.

But in readiness please get this link bookmarked. https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

Thanks for the link if this looks like what we think it’s going to be with out the other side of the story we need to bombard them with complaints, it has happened before that they have had to climb down of their high horse
 

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
Sell up and become part of the solution! Buy a new build in a massive estate on a flood plain where all the hedges and trees have been pulled out. Get 2 large SUV's and commute 2 hours each day along with 3 foreign holidays per year. Acquire 2 dogs, 3 cats and 3 children. Waste 1/3 of all the food you buy, fill a swimming pool with your landfill and whack the central heating up to 11.
Offset this by insisting the bi-annually replaced kitchen has a sustainable bamboo worktop. Tirelessly criticise wind farms, nuclear power, fracking and evil oil corporations whilst consuming more fossil fuels per week than an African family do in a year.
Only then you will become one of the blameless masses in desperate need of someone else to sort this mess out
Brilliant ?,couldn't agree more.
 

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