Please See Your Therapist This Week

[puppet]

Man the guns, batten down the hatches, pull up the drawbridge and prepare for battle
Next Monday primetime 9pm BBC 1 'Meat-a threat to our planet?'
The trailers show huge feedlots larger than my farm, thousands of cattle in herds like sheep all crammed in, dozens of intensive pig units with lagoons being spread by irrigation onto cereals and leaching into wetlands and a cow belching methane.
All of this of course is in the Americas so it remains to be seen what balance it brings.
Hopefully I will get through it unscathed although the cat, dog and wife have been warned to keep clear

 

[Farfrae]

 

[Treecreeper]

Man the guns, batten down the hatches, pull up the drawbridge and prepare for battle
Next Monday primetime 9pm BBC 1 'Meat-a threat to our planet?'
The trailers show huge feedlots larger than my farm, thousands of cattle in herds like sheep all crammed in, dozens of intensive pig units with lagoons being spread by irrigation onto cereals and leaching into wetlands and a cow belching methane.
All of this of course is in the Americas so it remains to be seen what balance it brings.
Hopefully I will get through it unscathed although the cat, dog and wife have been warned to keep clear

 

[Treecreeper]

Another impartial BBC documentary no doubt. ?

 

[delilah]

Excellent. What a fantastic opportunity for UK agriculture to promote the fact that eating British is the best way to have an environmentally benign diet. We should fully expect our national representative bodies to work flat out over the next week to get eloquent, media savvy exponents of our livestock industry onto the mainstream media.
@Guy Smith

 

[bobk]

Excellent. What a fantastic opportunity for UK agriculture to promote the fact that eating British is the best way to have an environmentally benign diet. We should fully expect our national representative bodies to work flat out over the next week to get eloquent, media savvy exponents of our livestock industry onto the mainstream media.
@Guy Smith

Brilliant . can't wait for the NFU response .

 

[Will 1594]

Think its time uk farming descended in all our tractors to the beeb and block london like france and other eu bods do when something does not suit

 

[bobk]

Think its time uk farming descended in all our tractors to the beeb and block london like france and other eu bods do when something does not suit

Doesn't work , alienate your customers even more .

Best way is to sell nothing for a month , they'll squeak then

 

[RushesToo]

Try and put a positive spin on this - buyers need to promote locally fed and locally eaten, "no rainforests were destroyed in the making of your dinner" Support british farming.

That is happening and it is unsustainable.

 

[yellowbelly]

Excellent. What a fantastic opportunity for UK agriculture to promote the fact that eating British is the best way to have an environmentally benign diet. We should fully expect our national representative bodies to work flat out over the next week to get eloquent, media savvy exponents of our livestock industry onto the mainstream media.
@Guy Smith

Exactly - the industry's PR 'machine' can't say they haven't been warned this time.
A full week to get their defence ready and to use an anti-meat eating documentary to the advantage of British Farming.

Come on AHDB, make some good use of all our levy money and make us proud of you.

 

[neilo]

Excellent. What a fantastic opportunity for UK agriculture to promote the fact that eating British is the best way to have an environmentally benign diet. We should fully expect our national representative bodies to work flat out over the next week to get eloquent, media savvy exponents of our livestock industry onto the mainstream media.
@Guy Smith

I quite agree, but will we also see the supporters of Boris & his chum Donald, pointing out that those feedlots are in the good old US of A? .....coming to a shop near you....?

 

[delilah]

Exactly - the industry's PR 'machine' can't say they haven't been warned this time.
A full week to get their defence ready and to use an anti-meat eating documentary to the advantage of British Farming.

Come on AHDB, make some good use of all our levy money and make us proud of you.

And no more fannying about with all the defensive stuff.
"We know our cows produce too much methane and we are working on breeding it out of them"
"We know agriculture produces 24% of greenhouse gasses and we are trying to get more efficient".
It's pathetic. UK agriculture has nothing, absolutely nothing, to be apologetic about.
Attack, attack, attack.
Anyone with a modicum of media training - and if the NFU and AHDB don't yet have them onboard then what the hell have they been doing since Veganuary ? - knows that the trick is to turn any question you are asked into the one you wanted to be asked. And give the answer you need to give.
"The most environment friendly diet anyone living in the UK can eat, is one comprising a mix of home produced dairy, meat, fruit and vegetables".
It doesn't matter what the question is, you just turn it round to be able to give that answer.

I quite agree, but will we also see the supporters of Boris & his chum Donald, pointing out that those feedlots are in the good old US of A? .....coming to a shop near you....?

All of which plays into our hands in driving home the above message.

 

[firther]

its funny how they will fail to mention that southern Asia's rainforests have shrunk by a 3rd due to palm olive etc

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Doesn't work , alienate your customers even more .

Best way is to sell nothing for a month , they'll squeak then

Trouble us ......so will my bank account !!

 

[Kiwi Pete]

"Agriculture" is also unsustainable, so it doesn't really matter whether your forests were cleared two thousand years ago or last week.
Timing, the only real difference, eg the favoured tools of today will not work in future, other than adapted livestock (which may well outlive our own species).

Farming is seldom the sole reason behind deforestation - the trees themselves are/were valuable enough to extract. The land under them.

The human plague is the problem here, and modern agriculture simply perpetuates that problem.

Thus, it's a very flawed discussion if the footprint of lumber extraction is conveniently tacked onto meat production to build a case, as flawed as the ideals of veganism or 'offsetting Carbon emissions' - IMHO.
Where are all the natural forest ecosystems in the UK? NZ?

The real problem lies within our own species, this slice of truth won't please the Beeb any more than the farmer.

 

[CharcoalWally]

its funny how they will fail to mention that southern Asia's rainforests have shrunk by a 3rd due to palm olive etc

Their hatred, fed to them by proactive protest groups who know how to play the media game, is completely turned inwards against their own people. It doesn't suit their bleeding heart liberal agenda to turn their fire on people that are portrayed as the poor of the world, even if those same people are doing their best to destroy the lungs of the planet through their actions.

The whole thing's a complete and utter mess, driven by megabusiness and their desire to max out their personal profit from food production.

 

[firther]

Their hatred, fed to them by proactive protest groups who know how to play the media game, is completely turned inwards against their own people. It doesn't suit their bleeding heart liberal agenda to turn their fire on people that are portrayed as the poor of the world, even if those same people are doing their best to destroy the lungs of the planet through their actions.

The whole thing's a complete and utter mess, driven by megabusiness and their desire to max out their personal profit from food production.

Its time some certain authorities stood up and told the truth, instead of always blaming livestock farmers, problem is were just an easy target

 

[GeorgeK]

Sell up and become part of the solution! Buy a new build in a massive estate on a flood plain where all the hedges and trees have been pulled out. Get 2 large SUV's and commute 2 hours each day along with 3 foreign holidays per year. Acquire 2 dogs, 3 cats and 3 children. Waste 1/3 of all the food you buy, fill a swimming pool with your landfill and whack the central heating up to 11.
Offset this by insisting the bi-annually replaced kitchen has a sustainable bamboo worktop. Tirelessly criticise wind farms, nuclear power, fracking and evil oil corporations whilst consuming more fossil fuels per week than an African family do in a year.
Only then you will become one of the blameless masses in desperate need of someone else to sort this mess out

 

[Kiwi Pete]

.... but keep it glued to the BBC....

 

[egbert]

Trouble us ......so will my bank account !!

I'm happy to shut the gate for a few months...I won't have much stock to trade until next spring. My mate milks cows though...I'm not sure it'd suit him, and 'Bill the Baconer' has an artic load of pigs ready to go...I'm not sure he's as keen. Oh, and Sally the Heggler put in that fancy free range layer unit last year, she's shipping out 3500 eggs a day...they'll soon pile up.....