Potato Ground
- Thread starter RastaBoy
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- Lincolnshire
If its decent working land that would grow potatoes etc I bet you’d find someone to pay £275- £300 an acre if you was including entitlements , maybe more if you could get water to it.
If its a one off annual let for spuds then £250-£300/acre without irrigation (more if its virgin land) and £350/acre with irrigation. Onions will pay more but they might end up overwintered which you would be compensated for but its hard on the land. Maize is £150/acre. Cereals probably around the same. If you let it out to one person for the 5 years then you ought to be averaging around £200/acre allowing one crop of pots or £230/acre for two crops of pots. And for all the above figures you would be claiming the subsidy if it still exists.
Clean land with water450.500 main crop . Better ,350400 with salads and don’t knacker land . Earlier lifted , Your land sounds like an ideal candidate , same as a block near here , been raped. Spuds beet rye maize rye ,
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- Lincolnshire
Farmernickt
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- The Fens
If you were closer I’d offer you £175-£180 with me keeping the payment if that helps you.
So basically depending on exchange rate for subsidy your rent is £100/acre/year for 5 years including potatoes? If thats correct it shows how area differences are because you'd get nothing around here. We can get £350/acre with irrigation which they pay for ontop and we keep the subsidy.
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Farmernickt
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- The Fens
Rents are getting a little unrealistic imho, there are people that would pay £350/acre around here with no irrigation but you’ve got to look at the long game.
Problem is if you are in the mindset of expansion you need to be paying good rents. We are renting more and more land out because we aren't interested in expanding, just increasing our income which unless your going to invest in all the kit for root crops or forage crops, means its far more economical to let somebody else do it as long as you manage it and ensure the soil is looked after which is what we are doing by stipulating nutrients are applied accordingly. This year alone grass for forage has returned us £200/acre, grass for grazing £150/acre, maize £150/acre and potatoes £350/acre. Subsidy on top of that is ours and we've had land ploughed for free which we wanted for grass weed control. All crops have had the relevant nutrients so that our soil reserves are not depleted. If we were to let all the land out then we would only look at outfit's involved in roots and forage crops because thats where the money is. and the argument that soils get damaged is entirely wrong as long as you choose the right person and have a proper agreement in place. For example we only use early variety potato growers because harvest is done in september not november. Things like that make all the difference.
Farmernickt
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- The Fens
Totally but when you start with no land whatsoever like I did 11 years ago you need to be making as much return as possible to be able to buy/update machinery. Chemical prices keep going up but commodities still fluctuate violently which makes budgeting very hard. I would like to expand but a full time job, 350 acres and contracting is all I can manage, I’ve either got to find more land and employ someone to help me or cut back. It’s a hard decision as I like what I do but something has got to give.
Again thanks for the replies.
Quite a range but always is.
Sub £200 I don’t feel it’s a goer tbh on the other hand I’ve heard talk of £400 which I feel is only good for one party and that’s not the way to build a long term relationship.
How often can spuds be grown on the same land ?
Quite a range but always is.
Sub £200 I don’t feel it’s a goer tbh on the other hand I’ve heard talk of £400 which I feel is only good for one party and that’s not the way to build a long term relationship.
How often can spuds be grown on the same land ?
Farmernickt
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- The Fens
Virgin land you could possibly go on again in 3-4 yrs but ideally 5-6 yrs I’d say.
How the hell do you manage that? Impressive.
Farmernickt
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- The Fens
With great difficulty at times!!! [emoji23][emoji23]
- Location
- West Suffolk
1 year in 5 for spuds, a couple of years to get over them in a wet harvest year.
I bet. Do you have any help with the farm? And do you ever sleep? Apologies this is off topic I will start a thread on this sometime.
Farmernickt
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- The Fens
[emoji23][emoji23] I have a contractor do my spraying, my daughter and one other helper on a corn cart at harvest and that’s about it!!
Lincs, the above would be £200/acre with the tenant claiming any sfp but the landlord claiming any environmental scheme money. It might well be disguised as a cfa but ultimately that’s what each would end up with.
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- roots weed control
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