Pre harvest roundup banned

Handy Andy

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Location
Wiltshire
I've got a problem with resistant chickweed. The pre-em's usually take care of it, but this year the amount of heavy rain we had disturbed the top layer of soil allowing it to germinate and by August my spring barley was full of it. Had no choice but to spray it all off. The barley was shorter in the stem this year and the weed was so vigorous that even just cutting the heads off would have been no good. By the time I finished cutting in October the whole lot would have been swamped. Without glyphosate I probably would have had to abandon some of it.
 

Bman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cambs Essex
I've got a problem with resistant chickweed. The pre-em's usually take care of it, but this year the amount of heavy rain we had disturbed the top layer of soil allowing it to germinate and by August my spring barley was full of it. Had no choice but to spray it all off. The barley was shorter in the stem this year and the weed was so vigorous that even just cutting the heads off would have been no good. By the time I finished cutting in October the whole lot would have been swamped. Without glyphosate I probably would have had to abandon some of it.
This is where it can still be used pre harvest by the new rules
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Do the residues in grain affect the animals it is fed to?
That's not really the point. European voters don't want residues in their food, even if it is under the arbitrary Maximum Residue Limit, originally set at the limit of detection but testing methods have improved since then.

Finding out if foods have residues above the limit will take a bit of investigation.
 

tw15

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Location
DORSET
Just done VI training day today it came up and covered topics on ppp renewal's and also the new to uk now has 18 PPP officers covering the uk that can and will be checking on us on top of red tractor . They can do no notice spot checks so even more reason to make sure you keep records and systems up to date . Max fine can be a 5 year stretch for the most serious cases . So boys it ain't going to get easier just more checks as they will be out to justify their jobs thats for sure .
 

Woody j

Member
Arable Farmer
Just done VI training day today it came up and covered topics on ppp renewal's and also the new to uk now has 18 PPP officers covering the uk that can and will be checking on us on top of red tractor . They can do no notice spot checks so even more reason to make sure you keep records and systems up to date . Max fine can be a 5 year stretch for the most serious cases . So boys it ain't going to get easier just more checks as they will be out to justify their jobs thats for sure .
if it gets any harder eventually there will be less grain and it will have to b imported (not quality assured) the same as what happens here in n.ireland
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
How is this any different to the UK importing GM crops grown in the US?
It isn’t. Stop using common sense - you will never end up running the asylum country like that :)

A form of protectionism is to use an excuse like pre harvest desiccation, BSE, swine flu etc as an excuse to ban imports from us. Of course our beloved government never use this to stop lower quality goods coming into Britain if it keeps prices down for the electorate.
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
if it gets any harder eventually there will be less grain and it will have to b imported (not quality assured) the same as what happens here in n.ireland
We all need to get our heads around the fact that the government don't care where food comes from as long as its cheap so that joe public have more money to spend on goods that have VAT on . It may seem harsh but that is the way they think . Don't agree with it one bit my train of thought is we should be producing food in this country and buy in top ups secondly . WE wont change it the NFU ain't got the power or balls to really fight NFU stands for no f-cking use .
 
Just done VI training day today it came up and covered topics on ppp renewal's and also the new to uk now has 18 PPP officers covering the uk that can and will be checking on us on top of red tractor . They can do no notice spot checks so even more reason to make sure you keep records and systems up to date . Max fine can be a 5 year stretch for the most serious cases . So boys it ain't going to get easier just more checks as they will be out to justify their jobs thats for sure .

I can't believe that is true. Who are these inspectors employed by and how are they supposed to catch people out- what are spot checks going to uncover?
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
What powers of entry will they have @tw15 ? Only HMRC can come onto your property without a warrant. The rest are by consent only with the possible exception of HSE and that is usually in unfortunate circumstances.
 

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