Prime Ministers open letter to farmers

[J 1177]

Words are cheap

 

[BrianV]

I sometimes wonder if being brain dead is a pre requisite of becoming an NFU spokesman, not one mention of the SFI fiasco by any one of them

positive-reaction-to-rishi-sunaks-food-summit-talks

 

[Swarfmonkey]

So you're going to invest 4m into agriculture in UK to transform it? I suspect James Dyson invests more than that off his own back

4 million quid doesn't even count as Treasury pocket change.

 

[Steevo]

4 million quid doesn't even count as Treasury pocket change.

I heard a statistic the other day that the cost of the King’s Coronation would run the NHS for 15 minutes.

Just Googled to see the cost and it seemed to be suggested as £100 million.

 

[HatsOff]

I heard a statistic the other day that the cost of the King’s Coronation would run the NHS for 15 minutes.

Just Googled to see the cost and it seemed to be suggested as £100 million.

NHS annual budget £160bn (https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-s...orkforce/funding/health-funding-data-analysis). Number of minutes in a year = 60 x 24 x 365.25 = 525960 minutes

160 000 000 000 / 525960 = £304,206 / min

15 x 304206 = £4,463,084.65

Seems a bit short.

So I reckon the £100 million for the Coronation would have run the NHS for 328 minutes, or 5 and a half hours

 

[Steevo]

NHS annual budget £160bn (https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-s...orkforce/funding/health-funding-data-analysis). Number of minutes in a year = 60 x 24 x 365.25 = 525960 minutes

160 000 000 000 / 525960 = £304,206 / min

15 x 304206 = £4,463,084.65

Seems a bit short.

So I reckon the £100 million for the Coronation would have run the NHS for 328 minutes, or 5 and a half hours

Apologies!! Shows my memory to have had a compete failure!! You are spot on with that.

I’m impressed by your ability to find the figures and work it out like that.

 

[Ceri]

And how do you think Starmer and the Liberals would treat us. They are all over us cuddling lambs to get the gullible vote. Then they'll come up with monstrous taxes to redistribute hard earned assets.

Totally agree with you on this point but after the absolute betrayal towards Uk ag from the Tory’s I just can’t bring myself to vote for them again……

 

[roscoe erf]

Talk is cheap

 

[Steevo]

It has however shown that the above £4 million discussed as going to UK Ag is indeed a drop in the ocean as it would cover 13.5 mins of the NHS.

 

[Tarw Coch]

I bet it’s printed on shiny paper so not even any use to wipe your ar5e

It’s printed in digital format, so no use to wipe your ar5e or light the fire.
It seems just about everyone who has replied here so far sees it for what it is.
Indeed, anyone who can’t see through what has been said must be rather dim

But honestly, what else did anyone really expect to come out of this meeting?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

It’s printed in digital format, so no use to wipe your ar5e or light the fire.
It seems just about everyone who has replied here so far sees it for what it is.
Indeed, anyone who can’t see through what has been said must be rather dim

But honestly, what else did anyone really expect to come out of this meeting?

Except that nothing has been said except food's gone up and Kaleb "wants to get more young people into farming".

 

[ajd132]

Except that nothing has been said except food's gone up and Kaleb "wants to get more young people into farming".

With respect to Kaleb, I’m not convinced he is a high level negotiator (but then evidently neither are the NFU with all their millions). He’s probably better value than the NFU!

 

[maen]

It’s printed in digital format, so no use to wipe your ar5e or light the fire.
It seems just about everyone who has replied here so far sees it for what it is.
Indeed, anyone who can’t see through what has been said must be rather dim

But honestly, what else did anyone really expect to come out of this meeting?

One change that would assist farming is a move away from supply only contracts to contracts that mentioned price! Egg producers have been hung out to dry because they have not been able to receive even COP let alone a margin.
It is putting a little bit of respect and trust back into agriculture that will help the future production and sustainability.

 

[Ramrod]

In normal times we can export, if we have a crisis we can keep it here, if we don't have the production we don't have the choice

Maybe so, but that's import/export (balance of trade etc.), nothing to do with self sufficiency.

self-sufficient
[ˌsɛlfsəˈfɪʃ(ə)nt]

ADJECTIVE

1. needing no outside help in satisfying one's basic needs, especially with regard to the production of food:

 

[beardface]

tories have taken the 'green hedge' for granted...I'm staying home next election

they're gonna loose anyway

Seriously thinking of voting lib dem. They have the strongest support for ag at the moment and will likely be the king makers.

 

[gone up the hill]

With respect to Kaleb, I’m not convinced he is a high level negotiator (but then evidently neither are the NFU with all their millions). He’s probably better value than the NFU!

Reported in the Telegraph this morning that the supermarket chiefs are not happy with how the meeting was conducted as nothing was talked about ref inflation pressures on the food sector but it was more like a PR job for Sunack and all he really wanted to do was have his photo taken with Kaleb etc.

Clarkson was invited but did not go.

Whilst kaleb is a decent hardworking young lad he is not actually a farmer and has no experience/ idea of the pressures of running a farming business and really was not suitable for the meeting if Sunack was being serious about food price inflation.

 

[delilah]

"This Government sees reducing greenhouse gas emissions as the greatest challenge of the 21st Century. To that end, we today commit to maintaining food imports at 40% and to increasing our exports to the colonies".

 

[Austin7]

Never has so much nonsense been talked by so few who know so little. Will yesterday change anything? Hidden in the Defra Press release there was one statement, one sentence, just the one thing, in fact the only thing that Government has to deliver. “The Government will protect the interests of farmers by making sure they get a fair price for their produce”. Then PM you can forget endless bureaucratic schemes, grants and consultants, you can shut down DEFRA, just leave us to get on with our farming. This should be our response to the PM’s “Dear Farmer” letter.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

One change that would assist farming is a move away from supply only contracts to contracts that mentioned price! Egg producers have been hung out to dry because they have not been able to receive even COP let alone a margin.
It is putting a little bit of respect and trust back into agriculture that will help the future production and sustainability.

Because of the way the food system is set-up in the UK, that doesn't work except for some very large scale producers.
Contracts that are 'priced', also have huge amounts of control.
The price is either set against COP for which the buyer wants complete access to all business information to set the COP
or
The price is set against the 'market price' which the cartel control by importing the right amount of product to suppress demand.
The whole of the sector is affected by these contracts through pricing and the introduction of new requirements which those on contract can't avoid and soon become a rule for everyone.

 

[jendan]

And how do you think Starmer and the Liberals would treat us. They are all over us cuddling lambs to get the gullible vote. Then they'll come up with monstrous taxes to redistribute hard earned assets.

What monstrous taxes have labour and Lib Dems heaped on us in the past ?