Pylons

[quattro]

Sorry, don't quite get what you mean. The solar farms will be 500+ acres?

Basically all the older substations I’ve seen would be 10to 70 acres in size
i can understand the solar park sizes but why do they need to be on good ground

 

[Boomerang]

No. I expect they will have a "route corridor" identified which will be the peferred route. They will be consulting before application for views, which will include statutory undertakers like gas pipe operators.

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At the point of application, all landowners will be notified and given right to comment etc. Its likely that they will engage directly to come to an "amicable agreement" with landowners. Although they will be able to wield the big stick of compulsory purchase.

The reality is that, although folk will go "wah wah wah we want it underground" they will already have done all the paperwork to show the cost of doing so would be X times more and so not realistic.

Yes seen corridor but it s only a rough idea.
Only a small shift makes difference between being on my farm or neighbours either way it's going to be a pain in arse.

 

[br jones]

put it under ground ? and what if the ground is in a carbon storage scheme?

 

[teslacoils]

The cost of underground makes it a non starter, except if they need to run a short section to avoid something historic.

 

[nick...]

From what I understand to put cables under ground there has to be 100 metres width to put cables in to keep them the right distance apart.thats not a mistake one hundred metres wide.that will damage a huge amount of land.its only being done at certain places on our not wanted run from norwich to tilbury.
nick...

 

[robs1]

From what I understand to put cables under ground there has to be 100 metres width to put cables in to keep them the right distance apart.thats not a mistake one hundred metres wide.that will damage a huge amount of land.its only being done at certain places on our not wanted run from norwich to tilbury.
nick...

It's the heat they generate that is often the problem I believe I've seen it mentioned in the magazine that gets sent to those with pylons that they have to pump coolant along the tunnels to keep the cables cool..

 

[fudge]

The cost of underground makes it a non starter, except if they need to run a short section to avoid something historic.

Depends who is paying and who is objecting, the Viking line went underground.

 

[teslacoils]

Depends who is paying and who is objecting, the Viking line went underground.

Its fairly tricky to get to Denmark overland. Sorry. Couldnt resist.

I havent read the technical summary of the Viking Route options. Im going to take a guess that they went underground as they needed to go through the Wolds AONB.

The last technical report for costings of pylon routes when the debate was overland or under, was that under was >5x the cost.

 

[teslacoils]

Depends who is paying and who is objecting, the Viking line went underground.

Suppose the East Lindsey ratepayers were given the option of paying the extra for it to go underground.....

 

[fudge]

Suppose the East Lindsey ratepayers were given the option of paying the extra for it to go underground.....

It won’t go underground, joking apart I think the EU funded the Viking link.

 

[Ramrod]

Viking link - When crossing the North Sea is cable laid on the sea floor or buried?

 

[teslacoils]

It won’t go underground, joking apart I think the EU funded the Viking link.

Yes, it was an EU funded project, but I dont think it was "here's £1.4bn". More that the EU sorted the financing to the two partner companies which are National Grid and a Danish state energy firm.

The overland option is costed at around £1bn. The same route, underground, is costed at £4.6bn for the HVDC version, and £6bn for the AC. Taking the whole route subsea using a HVDC cable comes out around £4.8bn. (source - https://www.nationalgrid.com/electricity-transmission/document/152606/download)