QMS on halal slaughter

[AIMS]

I once was told that in some abattoirs it's played over load speaker.. but they could of just been yanking my chain.

Alot was said at the AHDB meeting, it was hard to take it all in. Does the fellow who does the bleeding have to be a Muslim,? I can't remember.

The Kill has to be undertaken by a Muslim slaughterman who must audibly recite the payer, which is called the Tasmiyah at the moment of killed. The Tasmiyha (Prayer) is "Bismillah wa Allahu Akbar" which translates as in the name of Allah, Allah is the greatest.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

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You have very similar characteristics to the username smith31 who disappeared as you arrived….he owned an abbatoir

 

[crofteress]

Qms always have said all their Qms approved abattoirs are stunned first so if your farm assured and in Scotland your animals should get the benefit of being unconscious when they get bled out. OTM bulls in the live ring would worry me though going for kosher further south. So im going to take mine to Scotbeef Inverurie as they take bulls now

editing this as Scotbeef will only take a casualty bull , Sandyford Paisley is the only place for at cast bull in Scotland. I looked up the last 8 breeding bulls that had been here and all apart from one ended up at Sandyford. One from 2016 ended up at somewhere out of the UK so may have been exported but maybe that cant happen now I dont know

 

[AIMS]

You have very similar characteristics to the username smith31 who disappeared as you arrived….he owned an abbatoir

Not me. I have never owned an abattoir and am in fact a 24/7 unpaid carer for my wife who has MND. I have worked in the meat industry for 35 years. I do the AIMS work part time from home

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Not me. I have never owned an abattoir and am in fact a 24/7 unpaid carer for my wife who has MND. I have worked in the meat industry for 35 years. I do the AIMS work part time from home

I haven’t quoted your post….

 

[David.]

Where would be the harm in immediate post cut stunning, particularly with cattle?
If the Elders are disingenuous claiming that brain death occurs within 7 seconds, I see no conflict.

 

[Woolless]

Where would be the harm in immediate post cut stunning, particularly with cattle?
If the Elders are disingenuous claiming that brain death occurs within 7 seconds, I see no conflict.

Agreed, would be a good compromise

 

[Cowgirl]

Some time ago my wife, Margaret, watched a TV program on people in the Far East (China?) eating cats and dogs. Live dogs were beaten with rods before dispatch to tenderise the meat and live cats were thrown into boiling water to ease the removal of their fur. Margaret said it was horrendous to watch the cats being repeatedly pushed into the boiling water and their screams were heartbreaking.

I spent some time with a vet college friend who worked for Hong Kong RSPCA - you don’t want to know what else goes on, with wild animals as well as domestic. Different culture..

 

[Christoph1945]

I spent some time with a vet college friend who worked for Hong Kong RSPCA - you don’t want to know what else goes on, with wild animals as well as domestic. Different culture..

I was aware of some of the strange things that can be found on the menus in Chinese restaurants; duck's feet, chickens' beaks, fish's heads, and even fish internals, not to mention sea slugs. The list must be somewhat endless but considering some of the great famines that China had to pass through I suppose that desperately hungry people would try anything to assuage the pangs of hunger. They eventually continued to eat what they found palatable long after the famines. Anyone for a deep-fried spider?

But we digress! I always thought, perhaps mistakenly, that the manner of bloodletting of livestock was as much for the well-being of the stock, as it was for the dietary needs of the people.

 

[sheepwise]

editing this as Scotbeef will only take a casualty bull , Sandyford Paisley is the only place for at cast bull in Scotland. I looked up the last 8 breeding bulls that had been here and all apart from one ended up at Sandyford. One from 2016 ended up at somewhere out of the UK so may have been exported but maybe that cant happen now I dont know

My last two went to Highland Meats.

 

[Woolless]

editing this as Scotbeef will only take a casualty bull , Sandyford Paisley is the only place for at cast bull in Scotland. I looked up the last 8 breeding bulls that had been here and all apart from one ended up at Sandyford. One from 2016 ended up at somewhere out of the UK so may have been exported but maybe that cant happen now I dont know

My last two went to Highland Meats.

West Scottish Lamb at Carlisle take stock bulls, I believe.